Rob, a suburban mom with two young daughters, has problems. Oh boy does she have problems. Her husband Irving is abusive, her younger daughter Annie is fragile, and her older daughter Callie is showing signs of being a budding serial killer. When Callie tries to poison Annie, Rob takes Callie on a visit to her childhood home, which was a sort of scientific commune, where she hopes to do... something... to fix her.

The novel has four distinct narratives. One: Rob, in the present. Two: Rob, telling Callie about her own childhood (unsurprisingly weird and horrifying). Three: Callie, in the present. Four: Rob's unpublished novel, which is modeled on old-fashioned boarding school books but the characters have the names of her family and other people in her life, and the events are melodramatic horror.

I love this sort of thing if it's well-done and all ties together, and this is and does. Callie's sections are especially striking. Callie sees ghosts and talks partly in spoken emojis ("Red Face" for angry, "Champagne Glass" for party, etc). She is always accompanied by a ghost puppy that she may or may not have killed herself, and by a girl she calls Pale Callie - "pale" being her word for "dead."

In the present, Rob and Callie are locked in a psychological war, with Rob telling the story of her own life to try to explain things to Callie and also trying to understand Callie, and Callie suspicious of her mother's weird behavior and thinking Rob is planning to kill her. Rob is definitely doing some odd things, like digging a suspiciously grave-like hole in the backyard and throwing meat over a fence.

In the past, Rob and her fraternal twin Jack (both girls) are raised in a sort of family commune in the desert by parents who doing experimental behavior modifications on dogs that have become vicious due to abuse, to make them nonviolent again, via brain surgery and a genetic therapy they call "the click." Rob and Jack are extremely isolated and home-schooled, and don't interact with anyone other than their parents, a man living with them who's kind of a surrogate uncle, and a passel of grad students who make brief stays to help with the experiments. They're not allowed to read non-improving books, and so get obsessed with a boarding school book they find and read in secret.

This is an extremely dark, extremely well-written and well-constructed, and extremely bonkers book. It's hard to classify but contains elements of horror, science fiction, fantasy, Gothic, thriller, and family melodrama. The author calls it Grand Guignol, which should give you an idea of the tone and content. For the most part, it's very well-done and compelling; I gulped it down in a single evening and will seek out more of Ward's books. The central relationships, between Rob and Callie and between Rob and Jack, are heartbreaking in a good way.

But I am not kidding about dark. Let me provide some content warnings.

Content warnings: Serial killer-style small animal murder (off-page). Cruel experiments to modify behavior in dogs (on-page, a major part of the book). Bait worm maggots. Dead cows. Dead dogs. Ghost dogs. [rot13 for spoiler: TUBFG SRGHF]. Getting mauled by dogs. Child abuse. Dead children. Children in danger. Dangerous children. Miscarriage. Drug abuse. Mental illness. Domestic violence. Infidelity. Unfortunate implications about child abuse, mental illness, and fate.

This is another book where most of the discussion has to go under a cut as it has a lot of twists and revelations, most of which made sense, one of which is GREAT, and one of which is TERRIBLE.



There are a lot of layered revelations in this book, like unpeeling an onion. They're mostly very well-foreshadowed. There's so many I'm only going to get into a couple, but they're all related and cohere as a single story.

Rob and Jack were severely abused children that their scientist parents secretly rescued and informally adopted. (This is the summarized version of a very complex story.) Due to the abuse, Rob was violent and tried to murder people while still a very young child. To save Rob from becoming a violent sociopath and prevent the same from happening to Jack, the parents used the gene therapy they'd invented, "the click." This was meant to stop the violent compulsions. The experiments on dogs that had become vicious due to abuse were both meant to perfect and research the click, and to cover for the actual experiments they needed to hide, which were on Jack and Rob.

The click does work, but for some people and dogs it eventually fails, and they become violent again with extra bonus mental illness symptoms, like hallucinations and depression. This happened to Jack. Irving, a grad student at the time and and Rob's future abusive husband, gets both Rob and Jack pregnant, but Rob miscarries. (Not poly, he's a cheating asshole.) Jack has her baby, but Rob does most of the parenting as Jack's uninterested/incapable.

In a completely batshit yet fitting turn of events, Jack releases a dog for whom the click failed, and it kills the parents and Jack. Rob escapes with Jack's baby, Callie.

Rob takes Callie and pretends it's her own baby. Unfortunately, Irving knows Jack was the mother, and since Rob and Jack were fraternal twins, he could prove that he's the father and Rob is just the aunt. He threatens to take Callie away from Rob to make sure she'll never leave him.

And! This reveal is so nuts, I love it. Pale Callie isn't a hallucination, and she isn't a weird dark mirror of Callie. She is exactly what her name suggests: dead Callie. There are two girls in the book named Callie! Rob had named her fetus that miscarried Callie, then gave the name to Jack's daughter when she adopted her. Callie is haunted by her half-sister's fetus's ghost.

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This is my favorite revelation, which is only a twist because only Rob knew about miscarried Callie, and only Callie knew about Pale Callie, and Pale Callie didn't know who she was, so they only figure it out when Rob tells them the whole story.

The one twist that didn't work for me was also the only one which was left ambiguous in an irritating OR IS SHE??? manner. It's set up early on that 1) Jack and Rob are fraternal twins who look very similar but have different colored eyes, 2) Rob buys contact lens solution but (as far as anyone knows) doesn't wear contacts, 3) Callie puts these facts together and wonders if Rob is actually Jack.

I hate this twist because, unlike the rest of them, it makes everything that preceded it make less sense rather than more. If it's been Jack all along, then Rob's narrative has been lying to us/her/Callie all along and never stops lying, which is unlike everything else in the story where she's explained things as they came up or when she was ready to deal with them.

It also invalidates the reason why she's been staying in an abusive marriage. If she's Rob, then she did it because Irving knew he was Callie's biological father, but Rob is only her aunt, and so Irving could easily gain sole custody by doing a DNA test and suing, and he's been explicitly holding this over her. If she's Jack, then Callie is her biological child and there's no obvious reason why she'd stay with Irving.

In fact, it turns out that Rob has come up with an elaborate plot to kill Irving, which she ends up pulling off successfully, specifically because it's the only way she can get rid of him and still keep custody of Callie. If she's Jack, she could just get a divorce. I guess unless Jack delusionally believes that she's Rob? But then why would she know to wear contact lenses?

I'm going to assume Rob is in fact Rob, but it's very annoying that a twist that huge and also that terrible is the only twist that's left ambiguous, so you can go on thinking, "But maybe the whole book makes no sense actually!"

The ending is overly grim for my taste (as opposed to the rest of the book, which felt appropriately grim for the story.) It turns out that younger daughter Annie is the budding serial killer, not Callie; Callie knows this and has been trying to manage and protect her. By the time Callie confesses this, Rob (OR JACK???) has already destroyed the last dose of the click, because she thinks it's not worth trying on Callie given the chance that she will end up worse off than when she started.

But Rob and Callie love Annie, so they decide to devote their entire lives to trying to protect her and limit the damage she can cause. This is very well foreshadowed, though it has so many unfortunate implications about how the fates of kids are fixed if they're abused or "damaged."

The book ends with Callie realizing that Rob will probably die before her, so eventually Callie will be the only one standing between her psycho sister and the world, all alone. For me this takes the book from "dark" to "as they emerge from their separate concentration camps and joyously run toward each other, a cement truck's brakes fail and squashes his true love."

It's the total hopelessness that gets to me. Therapy and medication apparent don't exist or don't work, the damage of child abuse or the click is passed on genetically to the next generation, the thing that might have helped was destroyed, and after everything Callie and Rob went through, they end up exactly where they started, only with Annie instead of Callie. At least now Callie and Rob can commiserate until Rob dies of natural causes leaving Callie alone and they don't have Irving? BUT STILL.

That said, the rest of the book is really good. Take out out the stupid JACK OR ROB thing or resolve it to be Rob after all, and have them still have the syringe of click and the dilemma over whether to use it on Annie, and I would wholeheartedly recommend this book to anyone who is okay with the rest of the level of darkness. Which, admittedly, is extreme. I will be surprised if anyone here reads it.

As it is, I recommend it with caveats for extreme darkness, a possible terrible twist, and an unnecessarily grimdark ending. But I have to say that I gulped down the rest of it, and there is a lot I didn't spoil since there are SO MANY batshit details I didn't even get into.



Cue every single comment being "I definitely won't read this book!"

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Okay, I know I said I thought I couldn't take the dog harm right now ... but the rest of this sounds so compelling and weird and up my alley! And the way the dog harm element is handled sounds bearable, and my library has this (along with two other Ward books)...
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I'm glad that I went ahead and read the spoilers, because this does sound too dark for me, but minus some of the final darkness it actually sounds really cool. I especially like the twist with the click, the dogs, and the twins; that kind of misdirection is 100% my thing. (But I think reading the entire book would have been a frustrating experience.)
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Yeah, *that* is the kind of twist that I really go for - it's clever, it's well set up by the narrative, it's in plain sight but hidden by misdirection, and it raises a bunch of fascinating implications for redefining herself and her life in the aftermath of the revelation.
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HUH. I am okay with extremely dark when forewarned, and the part where you call it well-written and well-constructed (and to some extent the bonkers) is intriguing. I might pick it up :)

Cue every single comment being "I definitely won't read this book!"

Haha, the problem is that I think I might want to read this book enough that I don't want to read the spoilers, but now I wonder what I'm missing :) I think though that I might be forewarned sufficiently by knowing that there is a TERRIBLE revelation ahead of time. :)
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The library has it! And a good thing too, because good lord, that cover. I think I'd be afraid to buy it and have it in my house as a semi-permanent fixture. (I mean, not that I can't rehome/donate books, but in practice it takes a while for that to happen, whereas library books can easily go back after three weeks.)
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*nods* Child harm can be iffy for me, but knowing about it going in helps enormously. (Surprise!child-harm is the thing where I want to throw books across the room.) As is the part where it's dark to begin with, which means I'm less likely to get emotionally invested :)
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This is my favorite revelation, which is only a twist because only Rob knew about miscarried Callie, and only Callie knew about Pale Callie, and Pale Callie didn't know who she was, so they only figure it out when Rob tells them the whole story.

I love that kind of piecing-together. The ending sounds stupidly overdetermined to depress.
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Argh. In an ill-advised move I downloaded the Kindle sample, and I'm kind of hooked now, but I can't get to the library until tomorrow. I'm weighing buying the Kindle version. But that cover, even digitally! :P

The funny thing is that it starts pretty tamely -- if I hadn't been warned, I would have thought it was just your run of the mill mid-life-crisis book about a dsyfunctional marriage. But then there was the reveal about Callie having the serial killer tendencies, and, uh, yeah. (Also, whoever made the sample, I applaud you, that's an excellent hook.)
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A little while ago, before Sundial came out, I somehow got into reading detailed outlines of all of Ward's books, and im favt half-read, half-skimmed Little Eve. Ward is indeed too dark for me, much as I like her prose; I think Little Eve is the only one without a grimdark ending (and getting to the ending is indeed pretty bleak).

I think you will find (one of) the twists in The House on Needless Street extremely frustrating.

Edited Date: 2022-04-12 11:47 pm (UTC)
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No other twins, to the best of my knowledge! Little Eve has some interesting identity stuff going on, but imo it was well-managed and makes sense.

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...so I ignored my family today and read this book :P This is Your Fault! And, uh, I really enjoyed it. If I'd picked it up thinking it was the run-of-the-mill dysfunctional marriage book (complete with remodeling house porn!) the first chapter made it sound like, I would have been really taken aback, but having been warned, it was a wild ride. LOTS of plot twists, lol. Although intense! I'm not sure I'm going to want to tackle another Ward for a while.

Some responses in rot-13:

Pnyyvr vf unhagrq ol ure unys-fvfgre'f srghf'f tubfg.

Bu zna, guvf jnf FB ongfuvg gung V qvqa'g rira cnefr vg gb ortva jvgu. Yvxr, vg jnfa'g gung V'q sbetbggra gung Pnyyvr naq Pnyyvr (yby) jrer obgu sngurerq ol Veivat, V whfg qvqa'g... ernyvmr guvf zrnag gurl jrer fvfgref... naq... fb jura gurl fnvq gung V qvqa'g dhvgr sbyybj, rkprcg gung V ernyvmrq fur jbhyq unir unq gb or qrnq Pnyyvr.

Gur bar gjvfg gung qvqa'g jbex sbe zr jnf nyfb gur bayl bar juvpu jnf yrsg nzovthbhf va na veevgngvat BE VF FUR??? znaare. Vg'f frg hc rneyl ba gung 1) Wnpx naq Ebo ner sengreany gjvaf jub ybbx irel fvzvyne ohg unir qvssrerag pbyberq rlrf, 2) Ebo ohlf pbagnpg yraf fbyhgvba ohg (nf sne nf nalbar xabjf) qbrfa'g jrne pbagnpgf, 3) Pnyyvr chgf gurfr snpgf gbtrgure naq jbaqref vs Ebo vf npghnyyl Wnpx.

V qvqa'g guvax fb? V gubhtug guvf jnf zrnag gb or n erq ureevat. Orpnhfr -- V guvax, ohg V unir n cncre pbcl fb vg'f uneqre gb purpx -- Pnyyvr jbaqref gung orsber Veivat fubjf hc naq qrsvavgviryl fubjf gb ure gung ur vf gur onq thl. Orpnhfr sebz ure CBI, vg pbhyq or cbffvoyr gung Ebo (frperg!Wnpx) vf whfg pbzcyrgryl vafnar, Veivat vf gur tbbq thl, naq frperg!Wnpx unf orra cynaavat gb xvyy ure gbb nyy nybat. Ohg Veivat cebirf gung vfa'g gur evtug ulcbgurfvf. Ng yrnfg gung jnf zl haqrefgnaqvat.

...Ohg abj V'z guvaxvat, jung vs Ebo jrer frperg!Wnpx naq fur whfg... fjvgpurq Ebo naq Wnpx va gur onpx unys bs gur fgbel, fb gung yvir!Pnyyvr jnf npghnyyl Ebo'f onol, naq frperg!Wnpx zneevrq Veivat; gura Naavr jbhyq or frperg!Wnpx'f onol... ab, gung'f gbb pbzcyvpngrq :C

Vg'f gur gbgny ubcryrffarff gung trgf gb zr. Gurencl naq zrqvpngvba nccnerag qba'g rkvfg be qba'g jbex, gur qnzntr bs puvyq nohfr be gur pyvpx vf cnffrq ba trargvpnyyl gb gur arkg trarengvba, gur guvat gung zvtug unir urycrq jnf qrfgeblrq, naq nsgre rirelguvat Pnyyvr naq Ebo jrag guebhtu, gurl raq hc rknpgyl jurer gurl fgnegrq, bayl jvgu Naavr vafgrnq bs Pnyyvr. Ng yrnfg abj Pnyyvr naq Ebo pna pbzzvfrengr hagvy Ebo qvrf bs angheny pnhfrf yrnivat Pnyyvr nybar naq gurl qba'g unir Veivat? OHG FGVYY.

V'z tynq lbh gbyq zr guvf obbx jnf Rkgerzryl Qnex naq Ubcryrff fb V jnf rkcrpgvat fbzrguvat yvxr guvf. Naq V nz fhcre ergpbaavat/svkvg-vat vg va zl oenva gb Pnyyvr abg npghnyyl haqrefgnaqvat gung gurencl naq zrqvpngvba rkvfgf orpnhfr fur'f, jryy, abg npghnyyl nyy gung byq, naq nyfb Ebo qbrfa'g xabj guvf xvaq bs guvat rvgure orpnhfr fur jnf oebhtug hc fb jrveqyl, ohg fbzrubj gurl svther vg bhg. (Vqrnyyl jvgubhg Unaanu qlvat, rira :C ) Be gurl xvyy ure gbb :CC NAQ GURA ZNLOR QBA'G UNIR NAL ZBER XVQF VS GUVF FGHSS VF TRARGVP. (V tbg gur srryvat gung ol nanybtl jvgu gur Cflpub Zheqrebhf Trar gurl sbhaq va qbtf, vg jnfa'g gur puvyq nohfr vgfrys gung jnf trargvp, ohg gur trar gung znqr Ebo xvyy ure nohfre vafgrnq bs qlvat yvxr nyy gur bgure nohfrq xvqf qvq.) Be n svk-vg NH jurer gurl unir gur pyvpx nsgre nyy (V ybirq gung fur tbg evq bs vg, gung jnf n terng erirny, nygubhtu abg fb zhpu n tbbq bar bapr gur Naavr guvat pnzr gb yvtug) naq tvir vg gb Naavr, naq gura qrny jvgu qehtf be jungrire va gur shgher. (V zrna... abg vqrny, ohg V thrff vg jbexrq?)

Argh, am I gonna have to ask for this for Yuletide??

Oh, also Pawel, I spent the whole book going "why is this dude around??" and -- yeah, that got cleared up too...
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Ba pbagnpg yrafrf: V jrag onpx naq purpxrq, naq gurer vf n zragvba bs Ebo ehoovat ure rlrf va gur ynfg frtzrag, jura gurl'er qevivat onpx, nf vs fur unq pbagnpgf. Fb abj V guvax lbh'er evtug naq vg'f zrnag gb or ~zvyqyl nzovthbhf~, ohg yvxr lbh V guvax vg'f n fghcvq nzovthvgl, fb V'z nffhzvat Ebo vf Ebo. (Naq vs abg, gura Ebo vf Frperg!Wnpx va n jnl gung qbrfa'g ernyyl punatr gur fgbel -- znlor yvir!Pnyyvr vf Ebo'f puvyq gura, be fbzrguvat, jungrire.)

> Pbhyq or! V npghnyyl gubhtug vg jnf pnhfrq ol gur pyvpx, univat orra cnffrq qbja va vgf yngr, onq sbez.

Bu, lrnu, gung pbhyq or. Gur pyvpx jnf onfvpnyyl "zntvp fpvrapr" gb zr (yvxr... V'z abg n ovbybtvfg ohg... V'z cerggl fher vg qbrfa'g npghnyyl jbex yvxr gung) fb fher, jul abg!

>V nyfb jbaqre vs vg'f jul Pnyyvr pna frr tubfgf.

Jura vg ghearq bhg gur nqhygf rkcynvarq gur pyvpx znqr lbh unyyhpvangr, V gubhtug sbe fher Pnyyvr jnf unyyhpvangvat, ohg znlor Wnpx nyfb jnf frrvat tubfgf, abg unyyhpvangvat rvgure?? Jung n pbzcyrgryl obaxref obbx, yby, V nz fb nzhfrq ol jevgvat fragraprf yvxr gung gung V ARIRE GUBHTUG V JBHYQ JEVGR.

Gur erghea bs gur pblbgr! Lrf! Gung jnf terng! V jnf abg rkcrpgvat gung rvgure.

V nyfb ubcr gung Ebo vf bxnl -- vg frrzrq yvxr Veivat yrsg ure va cerggl onq funcr, naq gura gurl unq gb znxr gung ybat qevir onpx. Htu! V whfg jnag zl ubeebe obbxf gb unir unccl raqvatf!

...which is all to say, yeah... I might be asking for fix-it for Yuletide :PP

ETA: Also, if I'd been through all that, I'd be rubbing my eyes too, and I've never worn contacts. I'm just saying! SO I don't think it's meant to be a ~serious ambiguity~, really, just ambiguous enough to be ~edgy~. Which I think is dumb, but not as dumb as if it actually were a serious ambiguity.
Edited Date: 2022-04-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cahn


...so what you're really saying here is that I have to read Revelator, huh. And Amulet. Argh, I have Hugo reading to do! But before I pick these up: do these both also have super depressing endings? (Your writeup for Amulet makes it sound that way; Revelator it's not clear.)
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I was rerereading this while writing my post, AND ALSO.

>Va n pbzcyrgryl ongfuvg lrg svggvat ghea bs riragf, Wnpx eryrnfrf n qbt sbe jubz gur pyvpx snvyrq

V zrna, abg bayl qvq vg snvy, ohg WNPX GBEGHERQ GUR QBT VAGB VG SNVYVAT, guvf obbx, bzt.

I mean, I realize you know this! It's just that this book is so very WTF (in a way that I enjoyed!) that sometimes I just need to be like WHAT EVEN JUST HAPPENED THERE.
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ahahahaha I will! (Though it may take a little while, I am so behind on... everything)

(And in general feel free to request I review whatever; these days 90% of my posts are either venting or things that I promised other people I'd post on :) )
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Ha! I mostly meant, after I read stuff you rec (which is going to happen with Revelator, it just might take a while because I have a lot of Hugo reading right now which I should have been reading instead of Sundial) -- but, hm, what have I read lately? Um - a lot of John M. Ford rereads, When the Moon Was Ours for book club (which I was not particularly excited about), some history books I do plan to write up... I know there are more but I'm blanking!
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Ha, okay! Eventually. I am going through my queue... :)
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It also invalidates the reason why she's been staying in an abusive marriage. If she's Rob, then she did it because Irving knew he was Callie's biological father, but Rob is only her aunt, and so Irving could easily gain sole custody by doing a DNA test and suing, and he's been explicitly holding this over her. If she's Jack, then Callie is her biological child and there's no obvious reason why she'd stay with Irving.

I guess maybe she wouldn't want to be proven to be Jack because it would invalidate her having faked her death and getting whatever benefit she's getting by pretending to be Rob? But it seems like a very weird twist to potentially include but not make explicit or turn into a red herring.
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