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rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote2009-02-12 01:02 pm

The Bad Wrong But Disturbingly Hot, In Some Cases, Fictional Sibling Fictional Incest Poll!

In honor of Cantarella being about the tenth manga to make me root for the incest pairing, I present a fictional sibling incest poll! It is limited to siblings, half-siblings, clones, cousins, and other non-parental cases, because I find the latter too disturbing to even think about.

Please spoiler-protect all comments that need spoilers, either through blackout or rot13.com. If it is revealed as a surprise anywhere later than halfway through volume 1, it is a spoiler!



[Poll #1348303]

ETA: If I could edit polls, I'd edit Faye/Diana from L. J. Smith's The Secret Circle into the last category.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
first answer is Seishirou/Setsuka (or Anthy/Akio because I think that's where they belong, rather than in second category).

Fourth is Blackcest, in general.

I'm sad I don't have any incest icon anymore.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You made me choose between Cesare/Lucrezia and Setsuna/Sara! Curse you! Though, I had to go with Setsuna/Sara because, while I find Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship more interesting, I don't exactly root for them.

[fairly mild Cantarella spoilers, the important part of which can fairly easily be guessed] Because sometimes I am a mushbot and so I root for the Harlequin romance Chiaro/Lucrezia, which at least has a vague chance of not ending very very badly. Now, the other canon incestuous siblings...(there are a lot of canon incestuous siblings in Canarella)

BTW, if you haven't acquired the rest of Cantarella by A-Kon, let me know and I'll toss it in my suitcase.

[identity profile] amberdulen.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Petrellicest is all but Canon.

[identity profile] mscongeniality.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I chose Gonou and Kanan for the first one, but Koshiro and Nanoka from Koi Kaze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi_kaze) probably rate a mention as well.

[identity profile] loligo.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't take the poll because I don't know who most of the characters are, but I just need to say that Ed/Al is WRONG WRONG WRONGITY WRONG. With a side of WRONG.

[identity profile] severefun.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I loooooove that Utena alone accounts for almost half the anime-implied list.
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[personal profile] oyceter 2009-02-12 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite canonical incest pairing right now comes later in Cantarella!

AiIIIIIIEEEEE Ed/Al! It is doubly bad now that I have brother rats named after them! There is SO MUCH WRONG!

Also, I rewatched the Utena movie with [livejournal.com profile] rilina over the weekend, and it is amazing how many hinted incestual relationships in the show become totally explicit in the movie, like the writers were all, "Oh! This does not need to be televised! Full speed ahead!"

[identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Michael and Lucifer/Lucifel from Earthian.

3. Siegmund and Sieglinde from Wagner's Ring Cycle. (Number One. With a bullet. Shame about their lard-headed offspring.)

5/6. A fascinating but DEFINITELY squicky pair for any number of reasons: Elsie Dinsmore and her dear old Dad. They definitely have a Vibe going, and it's highly unsettling.

[identity profile] shati.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know how to interpret "favorite couple"! Couple whose relationship I most often find myself confusedly rooting for? Couple whose relationship I find most entertaining? Couple made of the characters I like best? Couple that I think is most likely to be actually incestuous?

*overthinks*
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[identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I adore you for including Ferdinand and the Duchess of Malfi.

Sou and Ai! Non-incestuous incest, which may really be incest... or possibly not?

Faye and Diana, and also Jenny and her cousin. Whose name I do not recall now.

Joaquin Phoenix had a creepy vibe with his sister in Gladiator. That's all I remember about that film to this day.
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[personal profile] larryhammer 2009-02-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Um, Shigure, Hatori, and Ayame are cousins, not siblings. (It's not even clear whether they're first cousins.) Also, another vote for Anthy/Akio as canonical incest.

For #1, my vote is for Koshiro+Nanoka from Koi Kaze.

---L.

[identity profile] free-the-goats.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
You totally want to pick up Melusine, the Virtu, and Mirador by Sarah Monette. The incest is one-sided, but it is a subtle uncurrent in the first book and openly discussed in the second and third.

And they're just awesome books in general with a complex fantasy world and a main character who is gay without the book being about him being gay.

The Winter Prince by Elizabeth E. Wein is awesome too-- Mordred's relationship with his mother is fucked beyond all belief, and he starts to take it out on his younger twin siblings (Arthur's legitimate children).

And Smoke and Mirrors, by Tanya Huff. An incestuous ghost pair, kind of in the background.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
River/Simon only edged out Ed/Al because a) I got so sick of people talking about it, including the creators, and b) Al may be a little kid in a metal suit, but he's not severely mentally ill.

[identity profile] wintersweet.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
None of the above: I cannot deal with any kind of incest, fictional or no. I almost had to quit watching "Kokoro Library" over that one scene, and it was nothing. Clearly I'm not meant to be part of fandom. :P
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[personal profile] chomiji 2009-02-13 03:52 am (UTC)(link)


In Hodgell's Kencyrath series, Tori/Jame has potential but she hasn't managed to make it very hot yet.

[identity profile] auragirl.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't take the poll because I don't know who most of the characters are, unfortunately.

Was kind of amused that you listed Ed/Al under the squick category but nowhere else, when that's one of my favorite incest pairings. Basically I pretty much agree with everything that's written in the Ship Manifesto someone wrote for them ages ago.

TL;DR, the emotions between them are incredibly intense, they're completely alone in the world, they're socially inept (Ed especially), co-dependant, living entirely for the sake of each other, etc. etc. It's a kind of devotion that could be creepy except neither character becomes a punching bag for the other - both Ed and Al will still bitchslap (sometimes literally, sometimes metaphorically..) each other when they're upset enough.

I wonder why it squicks some people so bad, really - especially since Al doesn't even have a body so 99% of the time the relationship can't even be physical, only emotional...and even if it were physical, they're both boys, so one of people's number one squicks about incest (OMG screwed up incest babies!) can't happen...

In all honesty most of the time I like to imagine them living happilly and asexually ever after as crazy old hermits, studying and reading and avoiding the rest of society. Probably with about a million pet cats.