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rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote2012-05-14 11:05 am

I absolutely don't have time for this so don't get your expectations up...

But can someone help me out with some Hawkeye/Black Widow resources?

Movie spoilers.



1. Is there a transcript anywhere of their conversation when he wakes up post-brainwashing?

2. Does anyone recall what is implied about what it felt like to be brainwashed by Loki? The scientist guy talked about it, but I forget the details.

3. What is comic canon for how much Clint knows about Natasha's time in the Red Room? Like, does he know that it happened but not the details? Or does he know details? Or not even know what it was?

[identity profile] arielstarshadow.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless she did something in her past life - something that Loki somehow discovered - that would make Clint turn against her if he found out.

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
But it raises the question of how Loki would have discovered it (other than via Clint). And furthermore, he'd have to unbrainwash Clint first, which undermines the whole plan.

[identity profile] arielstarshadow.livejournal.com 2012-05-14 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
My understanding from that particular speech is that it was something that would happen much later - it had nothing to do with the current "plan."

As for how he would have discovered it? Loki's gifts are cunning, wit, and trickery - how did he get the jotuns into Asgard? I don't think it would be very difficult at all for him to sniff out someone's secrets, if he wished to know them. I do not think Clint was his only source for information.