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rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote2016-01-18 03:10 pm

Diagnosis Made Easier, by James Morrison

Morrison’s book is a textbook for mental health clinicians. It is exactly what it says on the tin. It’s easy reading and could be read by a layperson with some knowledge of psychology. He lays out a number of important principles. I’ll just note a few that I find particularly useful.

In my own practice, I don’t often find diagnosis challenging in the sense of “What official diagnosis could this person possibly have?” (It has to do with where I work. Most of our clients were recently traumatized or court-mandated, so their issues tend to be pretty obvious - PTSD, depression, anxiety, life stress, etc.)

But the principles are still useful. For instance, I often have clients who match the criteria for multiple disorders. It is not at all uncommon for one person to fit the criteria for PTSD, generalized anxiety disorder, major depression or dysthymia, agoraphobia, panic disorder, and social anxiety. Which one is the most important? Is one causing all the rest? Which should I treat first? Which treatment is best for this person, given that they could in theory benefit from treatments for all the disorders? Is there one treatment that would cover several?

Also, sometimes the initial diagnosis is wrong or incomplete, and they need additional or different treatment. For instance, the client comes in with a clear-cut case of PTSD. But maybe they’re also non-neurotypical and have never been diagnosed. Or they were bulimic before and didn’t tell me about it. Etc.

Prioritization by safety hierarchy.

Since tests and investigation take time, you need to immediately check into some things, and leave others for later investigation. First, check for issues which are potentially life-threatening but treatable and likely to have a good outcome; last, check for issues which are not immediately life-threatening, hard to treat, and not likely to have a good outcome. In the middle, look for things in between. For instance:

1. Suicidality, major depression, bipolar disorder, medical illness. All potentially very dangerous, all potentially very treatable.

2. Panic disorder, OCD. (Very treatable but not immediately dangerous.)

Substance abuse without suicidality. (Potentially very dangerous, but difficult to treat; practically speaking, you can put a hold on the person who is threatening suicide, but you can't put a hold on a heroin addict just because you worry that they might accidentally OD.)

4. Personality disorders, dementia (if the person has caretaker and isn’t in danger of wandering into traffic or some such). Not easily treatable; may be life-threatening (Alzheimer’s) but immediate intervention won’t change that.

History beats current appearance

If you’re talking to someone who was raped last month, they will usually appear to have major depression, generalized anxiety, etc. Find out if they ever had any of those symptoms before.

Someone with a history of depression or anxiety is a better candidate for a psychiatric referral than someone who was fine pre-trauma. If someone was depressed before, treating their PTSD may not cure their depression, so they should be getting a med consult ASAP. (They are also much more likely to be open to the possibility of taking medication.)

If they have no previous history of depression and are not suicidal, sending them to a psychiatrist is not a priority; by the time they found an anti-depressant that worked for them, their depression may have resolved anyway because it wasn't true depression; it was a depressed mood caused by trauma. Treat the PTSD, and the depression goes away. Also, these people frequently don't want to take meds. (In those cases, I bring it up again if their PTSD seems to be resolving but they have persistent symptoms of some kind that are not improving with talk therapy. I point out that they may just need a little extra help in this one area, since we've tried our best with non-medical means and, unlike their other issues, it's not going away.)

And along similar lines:

Be cautious about diagnosing mental illnesses in people actively abusing substances when they do not have a known previous history of mental illness. Especially if they appear to be psychotic.

Maybe they’re schizophrenic. Maybe they’re bipolar. Maybe they’re depressed. But it is really hard to tell if they’re also snorting coke and drinking a bottle of whiskey every day. Very likely they do have some mental illness, but which one? Defer diagnosis and refer for specialized treatment (unless you’re the specialist.)

Get a family history

This is useful in so many ways. For instance, if you have a client balking at medication, knowing that their father was a drug addict may open up a conversation about exactly what their concern is – maybe they don’t know that SSRIs are not addictive. On a more obvious note, if there’s a long family history of depression, that makes depression a more likely diagnosis. Many mental illnesses run in families. (Typically, both genetic and learned factors are in play.)

Look for horses before you look for zebras

The teenage girl who seems anxious and pulls at her hair might have trichotillomania (the compulsion to pull out her hair.) But I’d check for anxiety, depression, trauma, neuro-atypicality, or even OCD first. (I'd start by asking her what the hair-pulling is about.)

Keep an open mind

Don’t just assume that previous diagnoses are correct. That includes your previous diagnosis. That also goes for family history. The “alcoholic grandfather” may have been self-medicating something.

Consider medical causes, including environmental ones

I once correctly diagnosed a client’s “panic attacks” as caffeine withdrawal. Morrison once thought he was suffering from a panic attack (he was in combat at the time, so very understandable) but it was actually an electrolyte imbalance – he’d forgotten to take his salt tablets. Once he took them and drank some water, his symptoms vanished.

Clients with chest pains need to see a medical doctor to rule out heart problems if they haven't already, even when you’re 100% sure it’s panic/anxiety. Depressed, low-energy, overweight clients and anxious, skinny, eye-bulging ones should get their thyroid checked. If there is any reason to think there may be a medical issue going on, send them to a doctor.

Always about ask medications a patient is taking, and ask again if they present with new symptoms with no clear cause. Specifically include OTC meds, herbal meds and supplements, and recreational drugs. Also ask if they’ve recently given something up.

Similarly, ask if they’ve been recently diagnosed with a medical condition. Many medical drugs and some medical conditions can have psychiatric side effects.

Clients presenting with a completely new condition in middle age with no clear cause (ie, not PTSD from a recent trauma) should be strongly considered for a medical cause. Mental illnesses (again, other than PTSD) tend to have a history, and middle-aged people are more likely to be physically sick than young people.

"Undiagnosed" is a perfectly legitimate label to use when you don't know what's going on, or don't have enough info to go on. Don't be embarrassed to use it.

The rest of the book is about diagnosing specific illnesses, such as “How to diagnose OCD.” It’s quite helpful (especially the diagnosis trees) but I thought the general principles above were more interesting for a general audience.

Diagnosis Made Easier, Second Edition: Principles and Techniques for Mental Health Clinicians
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[personal profile] recessional 2016-01-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Many mental illnesses run in families.

Hah, yeeeeah. I've always known the ASD (and my sib's ADHD) comes from the paternal line because it's rife with it. I think we have exactly two adults alive in that family at this point who either don't have a diagnosis formally, or can't be immediately diagnosed by a trained monkey but for whatever reason it's not worth pursuing formally for one, the other, or both. Bipolar/cyclothymia may also be lurking in there, but we're not 100% sure those weren't misdiagnoses of ADHD+life crap (and desire on the part of both parties to have a more exotic diagnosis).

More recently, however, I've learned that "tendency to alcoholism" in my maternal line could be more accurately described as "huge, huge stripe of severe depression and anxiety which the men in the line tended to try to self-medicate by alcohol before giving up and suiciding and which curdled many of the women up into hateful knots."

Suddenly my own mental health makes perfect sense!
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[personal profile] recessional 2016-01-18 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)

Ye-eees. I mean there might be a genetic predisposition to that PARTICULAR addiction, at least when culture enabled drinking (thus the tendency to men)? Sure, maybe.

But the part where two of my grandmother’s brothers actively killed himself, as did one of her nephews, and the nephew never drank, and my mother was hospitalized for depression, and I swear one of my aunts has undiagnosed depression and my uncle definitely did, and then there’s me, and and and . . . it puts both the functional alcoholism of a couple other relatives and the other great-uncle “drinking himself to death” into a different kind of complexion, you know?

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[personal profile] nenya_kanadka 2016-01-19 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
unless you're the specialist

Ha.

This is really interesting and cool. Even though I'm not going to be diagnosing anyone with anything anytime soon. I really like the practical approach to triage, and the thoughts on telling similar things apart.
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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2016-01-19 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE A ROCK STAR.
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[personal profile] yhlee 2016-01-19 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, when I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder on top of the bipolar disorder, I asked if I was supposed to do anything in particular for it (besides the anti-anxiety med I was prescribed to take "as needed") and my psychiatrist was all, The bipolar disorder is so much more of a problem than the anxiety (at the level that I have it; I have sleep disruption and massive stress about deadlines, but I generally meet the deadlines and I don't, for instance, get panic attacks) that we're just not going to deal with the anxiety.
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[personal profile] yhlee 2016-01-19 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
--stupid question, is this prioritization by safety hierarchy thing basically triage, but for mental health rather than bullet wounds?
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[personal profile] yhlee 2016-01-19 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, gotcha.

Thank you for doing these book reports--I don't always have anything useful to say, but I really appreciate reading them.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
There's something similar in recovery, where it's "treat the addiction that's most likely to kill the addict." So if someone was shooting up, also abusing alcohol and smoking, you'd want to go after the IV drug use first. A lot of people feel bad if they stop abusing one drug but they're still not completely clean, but I think the harm reduction model (which I greatly approve of even if it didn't work for me) has made some progress there.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the harm reduction has made a TON of progress. I keep up to date on the narcotic angle for obvious reasons, and one thing I've discovered is that current longterm heroin users are often just put on methadone permanently now. That's considered clean, even at Hazeldon, because heroin's PAWS is just so severe many people can't make it. It's so much easier, so much safer, so much cheaper, to just not try to get the addict brain unpickled out when the chemistry set we've got now isn't really up to the task yet. The recovering addict who just takes their methadone can live a normal, healthy life. (Some places, like Dr Drew on Celebrity Rehab are behind the times on this, which SUCKS, but it's gaining traction.)
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's fantastic! I still remember when methadone users got SO much fucking hassle for being addicts, and it just sucks. And actually just a few years ago a methadone clinic wanted to set up shop in my neighbourhood, which is FULL of addicts (seriously, it was the major place to cop in Seattle, only now it's getting v gentrified) but they got chased out. Gahhh. God forbid people get some treatment and hope rather than being shoved back in the shadows where they can put themselves and others in immense risk and probably die (and become even huger burdens on The Poor Taxpayer!), amirite?

It's so much easier, so much safer, so much cheaper, to just not try to get the addict brain unpickled out when the chemistry set we've got now isn't really up to the task yet.

Yeah, seriously. Did you read Gabor Mate's book, In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts? He's a Canadian doctor who write a lot about addiction and harm reuduction and he's great.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read Mate's book, I should. Isn't he the one who worked in the heroin towers, or whatever they're called?
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
His book is REALLY amazing. He works in the Portland Hotel, a harm reduction facility full of addicts, in the Downtown Eastside in Vancouver which is one of the biggest heroin spots in the PNW. He's like the complete polar opposite of Dr Drew. I adore him. http://drgabormate.com/book/in-the-realm-of-hungry-ghosts/
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Dr Drew can fucking bite me. I have many conflicting feelings about interventions (the main one of which is "They should not be television entertainment programs") but one of the unconflicted ones is that he sucks and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near addicts.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
He was talking about narcissists, and he mentioned offhand that when he himself took the narcissist inventory he scored high enough to count. "I could've told you that," I muttered.

Dr Drew is a narcissistic sociopathic motherfucker. Also, a sadist, a real one. He doesn't deserve to have a doctorship. I hate his guts.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
he mentioned offhand that when he himself took the narcissist inventory he scored high enough to count. "I could've told you that," I muttered.

AHAHAHAHA ahem.

Dr Drew is a narcissistic sociopathic motherfucker. Also, a sadist, a real one.

I remember watching him on MTV's Loveline //carbon dates self and thinking Man, this guy is weird. THEN there was the shit with Celebrity Rehab, which I thought really went beyond the pale.
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[personal profile] staranise 2016-01-19 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ooooh. I want this one.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they’re schizophrenic. Maybe they’re bipolar. Maybe they’re depressed. But it is really hard to tell if they’re also snorting coke and drinking a bottle of whiskey every day. Very likely they do have some mental illness, but which one? Defer diagnosis and refer for specialized treatment (unless you’re the specialist.)

Yeah, I was a binge drinker most of the time I was in therapy, and kept that from a lot of therapists -- not totally consciously, but I really didn't bring it up. Then when I saw one of them again after a long time I told them I was an alcoholic and had gone to meetings etc., etc., and felt a lot better and they were totally shocked. Poor thing. (If you think someone has a substance abuse problem and they _do_ admit to it, it's almost always accurate to multiply what they say they take by two or three.)

Another therapist of mine, after I sobered up, was shocked when I told him flat out I'd personally make it a requirement of an addict being in therapy that they were in some kind of program, complete with the signed slips. "But wouldn't it be better to first establish some -- " "No." Addicts tend to be much more hardass about that in my experience than mental health professionals, heh. But really, for an active addict, the addiction will always come first before absolutely anything else.
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[personal profile] em_h 2016-01-19 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But there's a problem here -- the way this is used in practice pretty much locks addicts out of the possibility of treatment altogether (I mean, unless they're functional enough to cover up the addiction). And treating *only* the addiction, when someone is in part self-medicating for underlying mental health issues, can also fail pretty badly.

I can definitely understand requiring that someone be *concurrently* in an addiction treatment programme in order to access therapy (as you recommend). But what usually happens is that people are required to be clean for a long period of time before they're allowed to access therapy at all. This model, to put it bluntly, sucks, and is one of the many reasons there are so many mentally ill addicts hanging around my church.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
But what usually happens is that people are required to be clean for a long period of time before they're allowed to access therapy at all. This model, to put it bluntly, sucks

Yeah, I personally think that's dumb. Someone with dual diagnosis (mental health/substance abuse issues) needs both counseling and specialist treatment. On the flip side I've known people who were in therapy for long periods of time who kept abusing drugs, and it really got in the way of their dealing with any other issues. Dual diagnosis also sucks.
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[personal profile] em_h 2016-01-19 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
On the flip side I've known people who were in therapy for long periods of time who kept abusing drugs, and it really got in the way of their dealing with any other issues.

I totally believe that this happens lots, but I can honestly say I have never seen it in my context. It's probably partly about class -- if you're homeless or very poor, all the system can see is ADDICT, and you have no chance of accessing therapy privately. Double all this if you're a person of colour.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to bow out now because I'm finding this argument over my lived experience kind of surprisingly upsetting and triggering. Sorry.
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[personal profile] em_h 2016-01-19 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to be upsetting, and I didn't think this was an argument. I really am truly sorry to have hurt and upset you.
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[personal profile] kore 2016-01-19 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks -- I'm probably overreacting because I'm in a bad headspace because I couldn't afford my mood stabilizer for the past couple of days (it's OK I have it now). It's probably just best for all if I drop out of the convo at this point, but I'm sorry too, I didn't mean to upset you either.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually fairly upset about this comment, my own self. I'm not sure how to say this gently--

It seems like maybe you didn't realize that some of the people in this conversation ARE very poor? That their experiences come, not from the side of being the helper, but from the side of the helpee?
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[personal profile] em_h 2016-01-19 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, I am sorry that I put things badly and that I have hurt people.

For the record, yes, I certainly do understand that many are participating in the conversation as helpees. Most of us are both at one time or another. Myself also in the area of mental health, although not addiction. And yes, I realize that undoubtedly some people in the conversation are very poor, and that different poor people have different experiences as well.

I think we all agree that everyone should be able to access both mental health and addiction treatment resources as needed. My own experience has been one of people with addictions being refused mental health treatment, frequently and persistently. I believe that Kore's experiences are also real and true, absolutely. I continue to try to understand the factors involved in people not getting the help they need, in whatever area, in the hope that maybe things can get better. I am sorry for handling that conversation badly.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't looking for an apology. I guess I was trying to point out why your comment came across so badly, in the hopes that if you're talking to other poor people, you wouldn't accidentally hurt them the same way. Maybe this just isn't a fruitful discussion.
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[personal profile] vom_marlowe 2016-01-19 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember that Downey got given the bipolar label, way back when. When he finally sobered up, he was like, 'Well, no shit I seemed bipolar. I was smoking coke in the psychiatrist's bathroom.'

I personally wish that there were good, solid programs to help people develop coping skills, interpersonal skills, hell, just plain 'how to balance a checking account' skills, in high school or junior high. BEFORE addiction usually sets its claws in.
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[personal profile] pauraque 2016-01-19 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I wish the therapists I was sent to as a teenager had taken this stuff to heart. I met the criteria for depression... but I also had gender dysphoria, and my own self-assessment was that this was the root cause of the depression. Yet I kept getting these people who were absolutely stuck on the idea that Depression Was The Diagnosis and meds for depression were the only viable treatment. My parents, perhaps unsurprisingly, really liked that idea too.

But guess what? Depression meds don't make a trans person not trans anymore! Getting appropriate help with transition, however, did make me not depressed anymore, with no depression meds required.
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[personal profile] cadenzamuse 2016-01-20 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
So is this worth obtaining a copy of?

("Unless you're the specialist" also made me lol, because yes, and also because my trauma/crisis therapy prof this semester specializes in DD, especially in starting programs for high-risk-of-incarceration-or-reincarceration DD populations). He seems to be super freaking awesome, in that very, very down to earth way that the best kind of therapist professor is.

I expect with my internship at a youth partial hosp program I'm going to run into all the Kid Diagnosing Puzzle Problems, including a lot of "we don't know what the fuck this is, so we're calling it ODD." So if you or your readership have recs for awesome books on diagnosis with kids and adolescents, I would read the fuck out of them.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2016-01-21 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Not diagnostic, but IMHO Ross Greene's "The Explosive Child: A New Approach for Understanding and Parenting Easily Frustrated, Chronically Inflexible Children" is a fantastic book on dealing with kids who have this particular pattern of behaviour across a wide range of diagnoses (including "we don't know what the fuck this is, so we're calling it ODD").

It's one of the books I wish my parents had had when I was a kid, basically.

[identity profile] egelantier.livejournal.com 2016-01-18 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OOOOOH. thanks, that's awesome.
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[personal profile] rosefox 2016-01-19 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Those are really useful and interesting.

From my own experience, I'd add "Don't automatically discount environmental influences as 'not sufficient to cause problems', especially if the patient brings them up". I've hallucinated from standard doses of pseudoephedrine, had systemic effects (drowsiness, etc.) from topical Benadryl, am psychotic and suicidal on standard therapeutic doses of Zoloft, have drastic mood reactions to antibiotics, need to consume caffeinated beverages one ounce at a time to prevent panic attacks, etc. (This is another thing that sometimes runs in families.) And an event that seems too minor to really affect someone can still be traumatic if it presses just the right button.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
At this point I am 100% taking client's word on weird drug effects. I mean, I generally take client's words anyway, but I have now personally experienced that any medication can do anything to somebody. (My psychopharmacology professor, a Russian psychiatrist, had clearly picked that principle as the thing to drill into our heads even if we left the class having learned nothing else. He also made a big point, which was illuminating to me, that this includes ALL medications, not just psychiatric ones.
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[personal profile] ladyjane 2016-01-19 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'd give your professor an A+ even if that was the ONLY thing he taught! I know someone who gets hives from Benedryl, another who is allergic to Aloe Vera, and a family member is allergic to animal protein of all things. She was a soy baby from the git-go, and she still can't have serums or egg-based vaccines.

btw, Why isn't there an "adverse reaction" section on in-take forms? To be on the safe side, I list the psued. and a couple other things I've had wonky reactions to under "allergies."
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[personal profile] rosefox 2016-01-19 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that frustrates me too! I don't want to claim that I'm allergic to antibiotics, because I'm not--but I also want doctors to know that I have horrible mood reactions to them and really want to avoid taking them if at all possible.

Being allergic to Benadryl sounds like a total nightmare. My sympathies to that person. :/
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[personal profile] rosefox 2016-01-19 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
That professor sounds excellent. I wish all psychiatrists learned that lesson early and thoroughly.
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2016-01-19 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Does this author talk about evaluating the patient's take on their own situation? (I've known people who were 100% correct about their problems; I've known people who were very much not. Presumably a good diagnostician will pay attention when a patient says, "I was held up at gunpoint last month and now I have panic attacks. I think those two things are related" and apply professional skepticism when a patient says, "there is no connection between the ten drinks a day I'm having, and my marital problems." But there's a lot of space in between these two extremes.)

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, he actually has a long section on that. I didn't summarize it because I work in a setting where it's not usually an issue. You automatically take the client at their word unless there's some reason not to, and in my case, the "reason not to" tends to be super-obvious, like the court mandated client in total denial of an alcohol problem when they were referred for their fifth DUI or the obviously dysfunctional parents blaming everything on their completely normal, albeit stressed, kid.

Morrison worked in some settings where clients were sometimes faking/denying/exaggerating their problems for various reasons, so he gets much more into that. Red flags include outside evidence contradicted by client (like the DUIs), claiming symptoms that pretty much nobody ever has (our standard trauma inventory has "red flag questions" that very few people in any situation endorse, such as "Sometimes the left side of my body becomes paralyzed for several hours" and "I have a hard time controlling the urge to set fire to public buildings,") claiming symptoms that are extremely unusual for their stated disorder, inconsistent stories, etc. These point to lying, denial, or simply a wrong diagnosis - like, the inconsistent story person might actually have dementia.

With the TSI, if someone seems otherwise normal but endorses the paralysis question, you send them to a doctor immediately. If they seem otherwise normal but endorse the fire question, you evaluate for psychosis, pyromania, or just extreme anger. If they endorse BOTH, they are probably scamming you. (This is simplified. There are about ten questions like that on the test.) Endorsing a lot of weird, unrelated stuff that almost no on ever endorses at all suggests scamming, psychosis, dementia, or randomly answering without reading the questions. It's a red flag for "Investigate this."
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[personal profile] ladyjane 2016-01-19 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm adding this to my memories. It'll come in handy when writing fan-fic -- and not-fanfic, too.

[identity profile] resonant.livejournal.com 2016-01-20 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if there are cases where someone has two conditions with opposing treatments. Perhaps someone has an eating disorder as a lower-priority issue, and OCD as a higher-priority issue (maybe because it promotes more immediate risks to health), but the SSRIs that would help with the OCD would make the eating disorder worse, making that the higher-priority issue. It'd be hard for the patient and practitioner to come up with a treatment plan in such complex situations.
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[personal profile] carbonel 2016-01-20 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if there are cases where someone has two conditions with opposing treatments.

That's a classic problem with heart and respiratory issues. As a vast simplification, what will improve heart function will often decrease lung function, and vice versa. For a long time, it can be a maintainable balancing act, but at the end stage, there's no way to optimize both, and the patient goes into heart failure and/or respiratory arrest.