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rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote2017-06-03 12:08 pm

Real cavemen eat bone broth

For reasons that really don't bear rehashing, I spent the last two years getting told to go on diets. Every kind of diet. No "nightshades." No acid. No gluten. No dairy. Low-FODMAP (bans dairy, gluten, soy, legumes, and half of all fruits and vegetables.) Low-fat. "Eat nothing but bone broth that you made yourself, and if you don't simmer it for six hours, it's no good." "Microwaving food destroys its nutrients." At one point I had successive doctors tell me to go on a low-fiber diet and a high-fiber diet.

Every single diet-pusher, whether doctor or rando, said or implied (usually explicitly said), "If you don't do this, you'll never get better. Don't you want to get better?"

This was especially infuriating given that I was so underweight that I had symptoms of malnutrition. And also that in two years of dieting, there had never once been any indication whatsoever that my illness was caused by diet or that changing my diet was helpful. I eventually came to the conclusion that Americans are fucking insane about food and that a primary manifestation of sexism is controlling women by controlling what they eat.

Anyway, I am not dieting now. But now that I am slightly less likely to hit NEON RAGE APOCALYPSE at the word "diet," I clicked on a link and fell into an internet rabbit hole of diet advice. Like the evolved forager that I am, I bring you my findings for amusement, analysis, and mockery:

- A comparison of wild fruits and vegetables with cultivated ones, concluding that eating fruits and vegetables is unhealthy because they are unnatural and not what the cavemen ate.

By that reasoning there is literally nothing we can eat unless we get air-dropped into some untouched stretch of rainforest to forage for wild bananas.

- Eating fruit makes you fat.

- Humans did not evolve to eat fruit.

We're PRIMATES. Monkeys love bananas.

- Corn causes Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

- Corn causes ADHD.

- Corn causes autism.

- Corn causes cancer.

- Broccoli causes cancer.

- Hot water causes cancer.

The last one, from a study saying that drinking hot beverages can cause cancer, had the best response: David Spiegelhalter, a professor of the Public Understanding of Risk at Britain's University of Cambridge, said: "In the case of very hot drinks, the IARC concludes they are probably hazardous, but can't say how big the risk might be," according to the Australian Financial Review. "This may be interesting science, but makes it difficult to construct a sensible response."

- A Breatharian – as defined in the book A Year Without Food – is a person who chooses to live mostly, or completely, from Pranic nourishment. Israeli author Ray Maor claims that once Breatharians have trained their body to absorb this energy from the air and sunlight, they are no longer dependent on food. Many of them continue to taste food for enjoyment, but do not need it for survival, he says.

Umm.

- Brian J. Ford has suggested that ketosis, possibly caused by alcoholism or low-carb dieting, produces acetone, which is highly flammable and could therefore lead to apparently spontaneous combustion.

The Atkins diet will make you burst into flame!

- Our ancestors NEVER ate a carb. They ate meat and fat and that was it. On that diet, they grew, improved their lot, invented the wheel, survived in caves and hinted in groups.

Bad history aside (even in the Arctic, people ate seaweed and lichen), anyone who's ever lived in a small town or attended school knows that a major human activity is indeed hinting in groups.
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[personal profile] monanotlisa 2017-06-03 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"I eventually came to the conclusion that Americans are fucking insane about food and that a primary manifestation of sexism is controlling women by controlling what they eat."

Hah! Yes, this.

Every nation has its own neuroses, of course; the Germans are no less neurotic than US-Americans. But...not quite that food-related, thankfully (I'm a lot more US-American than my countryfolks in that regard, though I try to relax).

Speaking not of women but of controlling other people's bodies, one of the things that drove me batty as a teen was folks telling me about my acne, "Just cut out chocolate, sugar, and fats!" And I did manage to not speak my mind and say, "FUCK YOU THERE IS NO SCIENCE SUPPORTING ANY OF THIS CONTROLLING BULLSHIT." But it was a close call.



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[personal profile] recessional 2017-06-03 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually did speak my mind, though usually not with the "fuck you", but instead relying on my ASD ability to lecture people about A Thing I Knew With Authority And Evidence™ until they shut the fuck up and went away.

The funny thing was I wasn't actually trying to do that, they had just revealed that they Thought A Wrong Thing about how acne worked and I needed to educate them. >.>

This is why I had no friends as an adolescent.
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[personal profile] recessional 2017-06-03 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
HINTING IN GROUPS AHAHAHAHA.

I also want to point out to that last one that the computer they are using to spin this bullshit is something that would not have happened without major cultivated carbohydrates (these being the major basis of every VAST civilization ever, and vast civilizations being the basis of the surplus population that allows for mass-scale technological innovation . . . etc). But it's not worth it.
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[personal profile] luzula 2017-06-03 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Israeli author Ray Maor claims that once Breatharians have trained their body to absorb this energy from the air and sunlight, they are no longer dependent on food. Many of them continue to taste food for enjoyment, but do not need it for survival, he says.

Ahaha, thank you for this post. It is hilarious.

Also with the "microwaving destroys nutrients", yes it does (to an extent)! So does any other kind of heating.
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[personal profile] taelle 2017-06-03 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there any non-neurotic nation? Because I don't want the Russian national one ("Everyone in the world is our enemy and insulting us all the time"), but I don't think I want the US one either...

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[personal profile] taelle 2017-06-03 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good, so the reason I never mastered hinting in groups is obviously that I am not an ancestor but a more evolved version... (and not because I never got the memo everyone else got, as I previously supposed)
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[personal profile] twistedchick 2017-06-03 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The only time that I'm aware of when hot drinks are bad is when they're so close to boiling that they scorch and scar the esophagus, which can make it over-sensitive (and it's painful, too.) But that's all.
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[personal profile] recessional 2017-06-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Also in re hot drinks and cancer: eventually BEING ALIVE causes cancer, is the thing. XD
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[personal profile] recessional 2017-06-03 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Unfortunately we are all hairless plains apes trying to manage massive hyper-complex integrated social systems with brains originally kludged together to tell other hairless plains apes where the soft fruit is and to beware the tiger (which were in turn built on kludges going way back to originally being meant to differentiate between "move or die" and "stay still or die"). Sigh.
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[personal profile] recessional 2017-06-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
omg do not go there I am in Vancouver (Canada) and the Raw Diet people ARE LEGION. /o\
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[personal profile] the_rck 2017-06-03 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I needed a good laugh today.
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[personal profile] redbird 2017-06-03 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
If my caveman had wheels, he'd be a bicycle.
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[personal profile] the_rck 2017-06-03 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the life event with the strongest correlation for eventual mortality is birth, so... We should all avoid ever being born because no one who was never born has ever died.
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[personal profile] isis 2017-06-03 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Is hinting in groups like fainting in coils?

As a runner (and as a woman) I am also pummeled with diet advice, but I appreciate Matt Fitzgerald (a running coach whose books include Diet Cults, which you might enjoy if stuff like the above entertains you) who advocates what he calls "agnostic healthy eating", which doesn't exclude or demonize any type of food, but which emphasizes foods of higher nutritional quality.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2017-06-03 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I have a vague recollection that the documented association is specifically between scalding drinks and esophageal cancer.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2017-06-03 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course they had wheels! Carved out of stone! The cartoons specifically show this! This is also how we know that they had names like Ugg and Ogg.
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[personal profile] cofax7 2017-06-03 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The Atkins diet will make you burst into flame!

HAH.
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[personal profile] sholio 2017-06-03 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a breatharian roommate once! Well, that's not precisely accurate, but I spent a year in a group living situation in which one of the members of the group was a guy who checked off most of the items you can imagine for "weirdo hippie roommate". In addition to having a bunch of books on breatharianism (they talked a lot about how you can get different nutrients from exposing your body to different colored light), he would also lecture us on the evils of eating cooked food, walked around half naked most of the time (to absorb sunlight?), and claimed to be half Native American despite being blond and green-eyed. (I guess I can't categorically say that the last one was bullshit, but given everything else about the guy ...) He also somehow managed to sleep with my sister during the couple of days she stayed with us.

So any mention of breatharians automatically makes me think of that guy. He was actually a nice guy in spite of all the weirdness, but wow.
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[personal profile] davidgillon 2017-06-03 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I quite liked the advice I got after the acute pancreatitis episode, while being told what to do to avoid further attacks until they could whip my gall-bladder out: "Try and limit fat intake, fruit's good. But we've had people go onto a completely fructivorous diet and still have attacks".

A little realism never hurt anyone.
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[personal profile] mildred_of_midgard 2017-06-03 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Also names like Wilma and Fred. And wheels, definitely wheels.
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[personal profile] callmeishmael 2017-06-03 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my anthropology professors said "modern dieting is secular food taboos" and things made a hell of a lot more sense once I looked at it that way. (Though I still get angry at all the "paleo" diet bad science bullshit.)

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