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rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote2007-07-30 09:12 am

On the positive side, I got to rec Lois McMaster Bujold

This weekend an acquaintance of mine noticed that I was reading an sf book-- which one, I don't recall, but it was by a woman. He remarked that he had only ever read one female sf author in his life, Octavia Butler. (And liked her work.) I asked him who else he liked, thinking to rec more women.

"I love Niven and Pournelle!" he replied.

"Hmm," I said, and recced Bujold.

"Don't you like them?" he asked, noting my lack of enthusiasm.

"Not really."

"Not even Lucifer's Hammer?"

"No... The prose was clunky and it bothered me that once the apocalypse happened, suddenly there were gangs of rampaging black cannibals."

He denied the existence of rampaging black cannibals, and suggested that I had gotten the book confused with a different post-apocalyptic work containing rampaging black cannibals, Heinlein's Farnham's Freehold. I turn the matter over to the wisdom of LJ!

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[identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You meant To Sail Beyond the Sunset, but The Door into Summer does have a bit that squicks some people.
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[identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

(I haven't read The Door into Summer, either.)

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
In The Door Into Summer, the hero marries his step-daughter, whom he first falls in love with when she's nine. Much comparison of her pre-pubescent spunkiness to her mother's evil womanly ways.

In Time for the Stars, the hero marries his great-niece. This is an even closer genetic relationship than it usually would be, because she's the grand-daughter of his identical twin brother.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
In The Door Into Summer, the hero marries his step-daughter, whom he first falls in love with when she's nine. Much comparison of her pre-pubescent spunkiness to her mother's evil womanly ways.

Not quite. She's the hero's business partner's step-daughter and her mother is dead. The Evile Fiancee is unrelated.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2007-07-31 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
You are correct! But the Evile Fiancee is cheating on the hero with his Evile Business Partner, so I mut have conflated the three adults into some sort of menage a trois parental situation. Or, as my step-mother once phrased it, "the three of them were living in a melange."*

*On Dune, presumably.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-07-31 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
...special.
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[personal profile] larryhammer 2007-07-31 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
In Time for the Stars, the hero marries his great-niece.

With whom he's been in telepathic contact since she was a preadolescent.

---L.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Although in comparison with the bit in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, in which a young girl [1] marries back into her own line-family and is sent off to bed with the patriarch of the family, the relationship in Door is practically wholesome.

1: I can't recall if she was 12 or 13 or if she was Hazel Stone or the inspiration cannon-fodder character.
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[personal profile] larryhammer 2007-07-30 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Not Hazel, but another daughter of the line-family. And she survives, IIRC.

Moon, though, has much less to squick at than, say, Time Enough for Love or I will Fear No Evil -- let alone FF or Sunset.

---L.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Who was it who is found on the ramp, with a laser hole between her breasts? I thought it was one of the lunar lolitas?

[identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a... rather extensive family. *ahem*

[identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com 2007-07-31 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ludmilla, the one who makes such a fuss about marrying out of the family that they let her marry in. Pretty sure that's the one you're thinking of.