I was talking (separately) to both [personal profile] sartorias and [personal profile] faithhopetricks about a peculiar YA and middle-grade genre which proliferated in the 70s, 80s, and to some extent 90s, which I think of as the "friendship is pointless" novel. This may overlap with the dog/horse/falcon/best friend/sibling/ALL the dogs die genre, but death is not essential in this genre, and many dead hamster/etc novels don't belong to it.

In this story, a young person meets a Person with a Problem: they are mentally ill, developmentally disabled, physically disabled, dying, very old, or being abused. The young person befriends them. Catastrophe ensues. The young person, sadder but wiser, learns the valuable lesson that you can't ever help anyone, and people with problems are doomed.

Crazy Lady, by Jane Leslie Conly. Perhaps the quintessential title! A kid befriends an alcoholic woman and her developmentally disabled son. She turns out to be abusive and the son is taken away, never to be seen again.

Afternoon of the Elves, Janet Taylor Lisle. A girl's new friend is mentally ill and being abused; when she does the right thing and tells, the friend is taken away, never to be seen her again. Also, elves aren't real.

The Sunflower Forest, by Torey Hayden. (Yes, the nonfiction writer.) A girl tries to help and understand her mom, a Holocaust survivor. But while the daughter is off losing your virginity, the mom has a psychotic flashback, murders the neighbor's child, and is shot by the cops.

The Pigman, by Paul Zindel. Two teenagers befriend a lonely old man who loves a baboon at the zoo. Then the baboon dies before his eyes, and the old man drops dead of sorrow.

The Man Without A Face, by Isabelle Holland. A boy befriends a man whose face is scarred. Then the boy is emotionally scarred when the man makes a pass at him.

I feel like I read a hundred of these books, some of which won awards. To be fair, some of them were quite good. Margaret Mahy's Memory, about a teenage boy who meets a woman with Alzheimers, is excellent and much less reductionist and pat than most.

But the sheer mass of these stories sent out collective messages which, in retrospect, were absolute poison:

- People with disabilities lead lives of utter wretched misery. If you have a physical disability or mental illness, you will neither recover (if it's the sort of thing where recovery is possible) nor lead a regular happy life while taking meds/using a wheelchair/etc. Nope! There is only dooooooooom, death, and the asylum.

- It is impossible to ever help another person, and you shouldn't even try.

- Befriending people whose lives and bodies aren't perfect leads to disaster.

And additional toxic sub-messages: people with disabilities need fixing; it's impossible to ever actually ask anyone what they want or if they want fixing or what they might like help with; compassion leads to disaster; disabled people don't get to tell their own stories; etc.

I can't help feeling that internalizing all that "mental illness is forever (until merciful death)" stuff was the opposite of helpful for me. Now, I don't blame the books per se. The books were an expression of the ideas floating around at the time they were written. But still.

Does anyone else remember this genre? What are your favorite examples? And has the genre died a deserved death, or does an example still occasionally lurch up, zombie-like, to win awards?

(I see there is at least one recent Newbery Honor book which seems to fit this pattern, A Corner of the Universe by Ann M. Martin. Hattie loves her mentally ill uncle. Until he commits suicide.)
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From: [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com


Yeah, that was a huge factor in my turning primarily to F&SF (and occasional mysteries and historical fiction) almost exclusively as a child -- so much of the modern-day realistic fiction at the older-children/YA level availabl in the 1970s and early 1980s looked like it was either utterly boring, annoyingly gender-stereotyped, awesomely depressing, or some combination thereof. I can deal with bleak and depressing if there are interesting, non-enraging things along the way to the downer ending, but bleak AND boring, with maybe a heaping side dose of rubbing salt into my gender issues? No thanks.

From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com


There is a really terrible 'what about the booooys' essay on YA fiction out there right now that pointed out (this was the only good part of the essay) that a lot of readers go from kids' fiction right into adult fiction because the YA books they're offered don't give them anything to latch on to at all.

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


Oh my God, I haaaaaaated that essay!

Shorter essay: "I glanced at a table at B&N and, to my horror, saw lots of YA novels that seemed aimed at girls! How terrible that girls might have books intended for them! That means that the poor boys have nothing! As we all know, boys will never read books with female protagonists (and this is completely fine) so we should make sure that more books are written and published with an all-boy cast of manly, manly boys doing manly, manly things. And maybe take some of those girly books and put covers with manly, manly boys on them."

From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com


My favorite part in the comments (before I just gave up) was 'Harry Potter's not really YA.' Um. WHAT?

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


"If my thesis is that YA has no male protagonists, then all books with male protagonists must be middle-grade."

Including The Queen of Attolia, by the way. BZUH?

From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com


"I'm sorry, I'm a woman, so I have no idea what this 'moving the goalposts' expression you keep going on about is.'

Not to mention that a lot of the 'adult' books those boys are reading are probably unmarked YA, like all those Forgotten Realms books.
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From: [identity profile] smillaraaq.livejournal.com


Ugh, I remember that essay too! But that was definitely more or less the pattern I took, albeit with a certain degree of zig-zagging back and forth -- I'd been reading some YA/adult stuff from a very early age along with the kidlit, so it was less of a sudden jump and more of a gradual shift in proportions.

And in retrospect there was a lot of that covert YA shelved simply as genre stuff in the library I haunted as a child, too -- they had most of the mass-market paperbacks all shelved in a separate room, sorted out by genre, and I remember there were things like the early Heinlein juveniles mixed in with the more grown-up SF titles.

From: [identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com


I read my way through every Tommy and Tuppence and Poirot book at the end of elementary school. I'd rather read about a murder than some kid's dead friend.
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