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I need a tattoo for one of my manga characters. It's Fiona, the one you can see standing in front of a giant orchid on ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
telophase's LJ. telophase gave her a heart tattoo on her hip. I love the idea of a sexy little tattoo on her hip, but I don't want a heart for various reasons, some spoilery.
1. The tattoo must be a single simple image which is easy to see and identify.
2. The character is a sexy, cosmopolitan young woman. She's smart, athletic, and has traveled the world-- and she could have gotten her tattoo just about anywhere, though I don't want to do a kanji or anything else that's going to make her look like a wannabe Japanophile. She's sort of a Trickster character. Irish heritage-- I thought of a Celtic knot, but that might be too intricate and hard to see.
Ideas?
ETA: I am leaning toward a compass rose. I don't want to use an orchid or other type of realistic flower because there's so much flower symbolism shedding petals throughout the manga already.
telophase's LJ. telophase gave her a heart tattoo on her hip. I love the idea of a sexy little tattoo on her hip, but I don't want a heart for various reasons, some spoilery. 1. The tattoo must be a single simple image which is easy to see and identify.
2. The character is a sexy, cosmopolitan young woman. She's smart, athletic, and has traveled the world-- and she could have gotten her tattoo just about anywhere, though I don't want to do a kanji or anything else that's going to make her look like a wannabe Japanophile. She's sort of a Trickster character. Irish heritage-- I thought of a Celtic knot, but that might be too intricate and hard to see.
Ideas?
ETA: I am leaning toward a compass rose. I don't want to use an orchid or other type of realistic flower because there's so much flower symbolism shedding petals throughout the manga already.
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You know what, all my ideas are tending toward topology or mathematical notation. Ignore me now.
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Which also looks like a Celtic knotwork piece. Hm. Back to art.
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*A friend of mine got a wagon wheel tattoo with a vine twining around it on her shoulderblade. It occasioned the event of me actually managing to snap off a really good line right at the perfect time. Several of us were hanging around and Karen mentioned her tattoo.
Someone asked, "Why a wagon wheel? Does it symbolize anything"
Karen said, "My traveling spirit."
I said, "Her wandering wits."
Ba-dump-bump! Karen was a bit miffed at that, gee I wonder why. XD
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But there are simpler knots, too.
There are also spirals, etc. Or you could always take an illumination from the book of Kells. Or do a Celtic illlumination-style animal,
I think the crane might be associated with Manannan mac Lir who is god of the sea and something of a magician/trickster-figure in Irish mythology (well, near as anyone can really determine anything about Celtic mythology...).
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Or, er, to be boring and obvious, an orchid?
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I'd probably get a biohazard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_hazard) tat if I got one.
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In the interest of self-disclosure, I have been one of Heather's creative collaborators and a close friend since 1998, so it was a bit of a shock to see her face next to someone else's name on LJ. I also noticed that you have quite a few other pics of Heather in your icons.
I'm not planning to say anything to Heather, necessarily, but I am really kind of curious why you've decided to represent yourself to LJ with someone else's rather identifiable and reasonably well-known images.
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On Heather's behalf, I'd also appreciate it if you'd consider contacting her and at least asking her permission for the use of her images -- it seems like it would be only courteous given that she's the model, the photographer, and she holds the copyright.
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Heather's a working artist; her photography, much of which as you know is selfportraiture, is a lot of how she makes her living. As her friend and collaborator, I hope you can appreciate how much it means both to her and to all of us who are independent working artists that our work is respected and correctly identified as being our own.
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Another is that the makers of Katamari Damacy do not derive primary income from the sale of images of a very minor subsidiary character in a video game; Heather does derive primary income from her own sales of the images she has created of herself.
And a third is that the designers and artists behind a video game -- in this case Katamari Damacy -- are paid for their work-for-hire, which, when it is paid for, becomes the sole property of a corporate entity which derives profits from the sale of a larger work which includes these individual graphic works-for-hire as components of the work that is sold. Whereas Heather's work is not work-for-hire, it is her own work and she holds individual copyright over the images, and derives profits from sale of the work she created and to which she holds direct copyright. Someone steals, for not-for-profit use, a image done as work-for-hire that becomes a small component of a larger work owned by a company like Namco, they've done very little to infringe upon the totality of Namco's product as a unit. Someone steals, for not-for-profit use, an image done as artwork with an individual copyright from the individual who created it and profits from its sale, and it does in fact infringe upon the totality of that product because the image itself is in fact the totality of the product as a unit.
For me, a large part of where using images -- even those presented as advertising material -- starts to require permission is where it infringes upon the intellectual property rights of an individual who depends upon the direct unmediated sale of that image (or those images) as a primary source of income. I *do* think there's a difference in the impact one makes when one steals from a large corporation and when one steals from an individual independent producer.
If you steal a $37.00 roll of stamps and a ream of printer paper from your office at McDonald's corporate headquarters, it's unnoticeable to an enterprise on that scale; if you stole the same roll of stamps and ream of paper off of
But honestly, my biggest personal beef with this specific situation is the potential for misrepresentation of identity, and not copyright or money at all. Heather's been a close friend of mine for a long time. It is very nearly as off-putting to me that someone who is clearly not Heather would choose to use her face as an image with which to represent themselves online as it would be if I logged on and found someone using my face. (And for whatever it's worth, Heather does not use her own portraits or face on her LJ account, in case you wondered: she's pretty clear about the nature of the professional persona she presents and when and where she presents it, and in online venues that are part of her non-professional life, she does not.)
I don't know, perhaps you'd feel differently about seeing someone you didn't know assuming the use of one of your dear friends' faces as a usericon. But it really rubs me the wrong way for a lot of reasons, many of which I've enumerated, and I think that I've said just about all I really have to say on the subject, so I'll retire from this thread now and apologize to our gracious hostess for occuping so much space and time in her journal.
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A lot of them were pretty and not too terribly complex-looking.
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Ha ha the evil plan is working!You're welcome!From:
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---L.
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I do have a friend with a dragonfly, which is pretty cool.
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