I fully expect that only me and Oyce actually want to do this, but just in case anyone else is interested and wants to read along, we're doing an informal pandemic book club.

We're going to start with The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History by John M. Barry. It's fairly long/dense, so we'll read and post in sections. After that, we'll read some other pandemic books (mentioned in the first link).

No strict timeline, no actual rules. Basically we're just interested in learning more about pandemics. If you want to read other pandemic books, go for it and please link me. If you want to rec other pandemic books, please do!

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From: [personal profile] recessional


*checks out the narrator for the audiobook* Yeah that'll do. (I need more background noise anyway, I've already run through several of my usual sequences.)
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From: [personal profile] batdina


oddly (or maybe not) I've just begun reading this one. I'm in, for whatever that means with an inconsistent brain.
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From: [personal profile] slightweasel


Well, that book looks fucking fascinating. I'm in! :D
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From: [personal profile] sovay


If you want to rec other pandemic books, please do!

I'd love someone who isn't me to throw themselves on the grenade of finding out whether Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern (1983) is a good pandemic book or . . . not.
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From: [personal profile] recessional


I mean, it'd depend on what you mean by good - ?

Her depiction of a pandemic in a mostly-premodern society with poor understanding of epidemiology isn't terrible. Some of the science is not terrible. You can tell she's in the middle of starting to flail about the darker implications of her initial worldbuilding re dragons, sex, sexuality, etc.
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From: [personal profile] sovay


Her depiction of a pandemic in a mostly-premodern society with poor understanding of epidemiology isn't terrible.

That's nice to know. I read it in fifth or seventh grade when the race-against-time element of the pandemic and the vaccine was gripping and all of the sexual weirdness in all the books went over my head.
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From: [personal profile] slashmarks


I just reread this! Things move a bit implausibly fast, but I can kind of see why she wanted to resolve the plot in a relatively limited time frame. The depiction of variable government response is, um, plausible.

There's the usual political fantasy element in Pern where most of the highest ranks of society are basically well-intentioned people who are competent and consult each other to brilliantly solve the crisis, while pressuring the few bad apples among them, and all characters are conveniently obviously good or bad on first introduction. I suspect the appeal of this is variable. I thought it was marginally subtler in this one than, say, Dragonseye or Dragonquest, but that's not really saying much.

One thing that may not have stuck with you if you read it a long time ago is that it's definitely an emphatic tragedy based on Moreta's personal life, not just the epidemic? There are a lot of painful hints strung throughout of who she would have been, what she would have done with her life, if she had lived; copious references to the Interval, to her having only recently become senior Weyrwoman, to her influencing Orlith towards a man she actually likes at her next mating flight (which never happens), etc. I mention this because I suspect it may be upsetting to read right now for some people.
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From: [personal profile] marjorie1170


I'm interested. Thanks for the rec.
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From: [personal profile] skygiants


I read this one a few years ago, I'll be curious to hear your thoughts about it! (I still want someone to do a drinking game version where you take a shot every time John M. Barry uses his catchphrase, this was influenza, only influenza.)

For a rec, I more recently read Pale Rider: The Spanish Flu of 1918 And How It Changed the World and thought it was extremely good.
Edited Date: 2020-04-12 10:34 pm (UTC)

From: [personal profile] grayduck


I read this right when COVID-19 was just starting out, in China. I had to put it down about halfway through when it was becoming apparent that we were going to be dealing with our own pandemic. I can only handle one pandemic's worth of anxiety at a time!

It was an excellent book, though. The first part is an in-depth look at what the medical field was like in the mid-to-late 19th century, and how the research and study side of medicine gained traction. It was fascinating and I felt like I learned a ton - my favorite kind of book. I'll go back to it eventually!
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From: [personal profile] akamarykate


I was about 2/3 through listening to this in December when my mom went into the hospital with Influenza A. She was there until Christmas, dealt with complications all through January, and had a pacemaker installed in February because of what the flu had done to her heart. I don't think I'm ever going to go back and finish it, but it's good, solid research well told.

If you're looking for something about the Black Plague, I have 2 bookshelves full of stuff on it thanks to writing research, and my favorite by far is John Kelly's The Great Mortality.
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From: [personal profile] marycatelli


Interesting how it affects how people read. Me, I don't even want to read it in fiction.
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer


I have a copy of "The Great Mortality: An Intimate History of the Black Death, the Most Devastating Plague of All Time" by John Kelly, but have not read it (yet).

I read "The Ghost Map" a couple of years ago, which is about the guy who figured out the link between the cholera outbreak and the Broad Street Pump, and also about the history of sanitation in the city of London. (Or, you know, its lack. Holy shit, its lack.) That book was great, FYI.

I pulled "Doomesday Book" (by Connie Willis) off the shelf the other week but haven't re-read it yet.
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From: [personal profile] sillylilly_bird


I have this, but loaned it to a coworker. Alfred Crosby's "America's Forgotten Pandemic" is another one I can recommend.
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From: [personal profile] havocthecat


Time to buy another history book! Like I don't have enough as it is? (You can never have enough.)
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From: [personal profile] kathmandu

Another book on the 1918 influenza pandemic.


I read The Plague of the Spanish Lady, by Richard Collier. It's mostly based on interviews with survivors, so there are a lot of specific, concrete anecdotes with bits of summary overview.

It was *wild*. Very vivid. I read it twenty years ago when there was no current resonance, and some of those stories are with me to this day. I suspect it would be unlike any other books on the 1918 pandemic.
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From: [personal profile] ageorwizardry

Re: Another book on the 1918 influenza pandemic.


Thank you for mentioning this. I tried it on your recommendation and it turns out to be only the second book I've been able to focus on reading During All This.
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