I can't much type now, but that was AWESOME. I mean, really good, not just guilty pleasure + Dean Winchester good.

But perhaps you all will comment in comments if you ahve watched that far about that last set of episodes?



I knew what happened, but not how; thought Dean was dying from possessed-John-inflicted injuries, so was not expecteing MONSTER TRUCK!

Array on ceiling to catch meg remind anyone else of FMA? Ditto brotherly relationship, dead mother, and (quite different) absent father? (Put "SPOILERS for Fullmetal Alchemist" in header if there are any.)

I will never recover from Dean pleading with John-within-possessed body not to kill him. And the look in his eyes when Sam holds the Colt on possessed-John.

Nor from the hands on the Ouija board, so thats where the icon is from. also reminds me of FMA-- the feeling more than the particular image, though there are some literal visual paralells.

What does everyone think John told Dean? We still don't know, right?

Good on John for finally telling Dean he appreciated (and knew) what Dean had done for the family. Despite giving Dean a complex the size of that semi, still, I assume he thought Dean was better scarred than dead-- and telling him or Sam after would just make it harder on them, and before would make it much worse.

From: [identity profile] veejane.livejournal.com


Just by being talked-about unseen for so much of the first season, John's thematic power is multiplied by a gajillion the instant he interacts with the boys. I hadn't even seen most of the season and I saw the altar episode with Meg and knew that his character was a massive development in the series -- giving it more depth, more breadth, and the heft to hurt. I wasn't wrong.

I think that the fandom in general had a very low opinion of John, because they took Sam's word for it (and his side); I have seen a number of tail-end conversations about how John was "abusive" and mean and all that. But the instant everyone got to see John, see him interact with his children, it seemed to all turn around. He still gets some chiding (notably from me) for his high-handedness, but being able to empathize in the flesh (so to speak, considering it's television) changed how a lot of people felt, I think.

I do enjoy this family, watching it work. They've got crappy interior boundaries, and are always stepping on each other's feet, but they'll fight over who gets to die to protect the other two. (Hey, no wonder John is high-handed!)

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


Indeed.

I had a lot more sympathy for John than I expected. I do wonder why he never even showed up in "Faith," given his actions here, but maybe he thought that wasn't really as bad as Sam was making it out to be, and was going to check in later if no one pulled off a miracle cure-- which they did. And the situation here was much more directly John's fault/responsibility, rather than the natural vagaries of hunting. (Plus he probably still felt guilty over "Faith," though I don't remember him mentioning it directly.)

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