In light of the troubled times we live in and the many serious issues which surround us today, I would like to discuss a profoundly important topic, namely, The Decapitated Head In Narrative.

I am eminently qualified to discuss this subject, as I once mailed a head to my collaborator and friend [livejournal.com profile] telophase.

I was thinking about it because, as you all know, I am reading The Mahabharata, and that contains a number of decapitations, including two of the best stories about heads that I have ever heard:

First, there is the self-removed magic nodding head on the hill. You have to read the comments and follow the links, especially the last one in the original post, to get the full effect.

And then there is the Exploding Head Of Jayadratha's Father. At the climax of a very intense battle, Arjuna shoots an arrow to cut off the head of his enemy, Jayadratha. As his... um, for the benefit of the newbies, I'll just say "best friend and ally" Krishna had instructed, Arjuna aims the arrow so it carries Jayadratha's head off the battlefield and dumps it in the lap of Jayadratha's father, who was watching from the sidelines. To the astonishment of everyone but Krishna, Jayadratha's father's own head explodes!

Krishna explains that Jayadratha's father had made a pre-emptive attempt to get revenge on anyone who might kill his son by making it so that whoever held his son's decapitated head would have their own head explode. Oops! Those sorts of boons never do work out as intended.

There are, of course, many heads in anime and manga. Sometimes they are in jars. Perhaps my favorite is the head in a jar in Yami no Matsuei, not because it does anything in particular, but because of the reason for its jarred existence: a man killed his brother, then kept his head in a jar in the hope of some day bringing him back to life... so he could kill him again.

I also like the disease in Planet Ladder which causes people's limbs or heads to suddenly fall off, while they are going about their daily lives. It brings up the issue of emotional response:

Drawing of someone's head suddenly falling off: comedy gold.

Drawing of character we already know, but now with her handless arms wrapped in bandages: horrifying and tragic.

The decapitated head, clearly, creates some narrative difficulties. One is unintentional comedy. When characters weeping over the decapitated body of their friend go on to pick up and caress the head, particularly in visual media, it is about fifty-fifty whether I will weep or snicker.

Then too, decapitation is instantaneous. (Or unwatchably horrible if it isn't.) This precludes the possibility of long death scenes. (Unless it's the sort of story where heads can keep talking) I recently read a book where the main character canonically dies from getting his head cut off. But it seemed very much the kind of book that would have a long and dramatic death scene. To my delight, the author resolved this problem by having the character die from having his head half cut off, thereby sticking to canon but getting in the requisite lengthy (and, I must say, memorably disturbing) death scene.

What are your favorite moments in literature (or anime, etc) involving heads?

Please do not spoil significant plot points. For instance, if you want to write about heads in X/1999, you may describe the scene, but please don't say who is cuddling whose head.

From: [identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com


When characters weeping over the decapitated body of their friend go on to pick up and caress the head, particularly in visual media, it is about fifty-fifty whether I will weep or snicker.

Especially when the person then sings a duet with the head, as happened with Margaret and Suffolk's head in the 2001 RSC production of Henry VI -- it was a brilliant production, on the whole, but that was a little bit WTF. (The Henry VIs are, of course, a terrific play for severed heads, as there are lots and lots and lots of them about. They're usually not required to sing though.)

Also, two of the severed heads are at one point made to look like they're kissing -- I just read a paper about that gesture for the conference I'm at, which talks about its significance in 2 Henry VI, especially since it comes from the chronicle accounts not only of Jack Cade's rebellion but of the Revolt of 1381...

Also also, a while back, I compiled this.

From: [identity profile] janni.livejournal.com


So what translation of this thing do you recommend? :-)

Even if reading it after reading the sagas may make my own head explode ...

I'm working on a middle grade that begins with a decapitated head. :-)

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


Either Kamala Subramaniam's in one volume, or Ramesh Menon's in two. You'd have to mail-order them, but they are available. I gather both are pretty accurate.

Subramaniam's is very moving, written in simple prose, and obviously leaves more out.

Menon's is more of a page-turner, sometimes overwritten but often brilliant, and is very good at capturing the inner lives of the characters though less likely to make me cry.

I could copy you some excerpts from each if you want to compare the prose.
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From: [identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com


Oooo, I haven't seen Menon's. I like the Subramaniam one but don't own it. There is a super short William Buck translation, and the incomplete Von Buitenen one which has all the boring bits that I kind of like despite them being boring, and which has an awesome index, and an older one I had from the library long ago whose translator I've forgotten... it was in 2 volumes and from the 40s or 50s.

I wrote a mud area based on the Battle of Kurukshetra, with many extra gods watching from above in the clouds...

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


You should check out Menon's! I really like it. You can read the first few chapters here: http://www.tehelka.com/channels/Mahabharata/Mahabharata_main.asp

Like an LJ, the first part is at the bottom of the page, and the later parts at the top.

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


See comments below for a link to some of Menon's chapters online.

From: [identity profile] rilina.livejournal.com


Two stories immediately come to mind:

1) A certain Vorkosigan book.

2) The anime Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto, which is mediocre, but whose basic premise (http://rilina.livejournal.com/379269.html) features a head.
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From: [personal profile] cofax7


1) -- Oh, indeed. "I went shopping." Good god, I love that scene.

From: [identity profile] gaudior.livejournal.com


1) Because it does such a good job of using the humor, while not making it any less grim, really-- it's very funny, and very dire, so the joke doesn't take actually away from the seriousness of it.

Do it that way, and the silliness works for you, instead of against.
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer


1) "I paid too much." "That, too, is traditional."
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From: [personal profile] oyceter


I think my favorite head story is still the real-life beheading of Yukio Mishima, in which it took several attempts to get the ritual seppuku step of beheading done right, anecdotally because Mishima's hobby of bodybuilding resulted in an unusually muscular neck.

Things you don't usually think about when planning your death...

And then, of course, there are the head-cradling-and-weeping scenes in X.

From: [identity profile] mistressrenet.livejournal.com


I'm so glad you brought Mishima up, 'cause I forgot about it.
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From: [personal profile] snarp


Battle Angel Alita, being what it is, has many scenes involving people carrying the heads of their loved ones around and weeping/cackling/making vows that they will later regret. My personal favorite is a scene where Character A decapitates Character B, speaking some sorrowful, heartfelt words to B's corpse. The next chapter, B reappears with explosives, and hir shirt unbuttoned to reveal a second face protruding from hir chest. B cackles and then complains, "It hurts to laugh!"

There's also one where some cyborgs are basically racing on roller-skates, and someone slices someone else's skull open. This, naturally, causes the person's brain to pop out and skid ahead along the racetrack. Whee! This manga has probably done me irreversible psychic damage.

From: [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com


Yeah, Battle Angel Alita has lots of decaps and head spills, though I love the author's style and pacing. You never really know WHERE the hell he's going to take things...

From: [identity profile] redsnowpenguin.livejournal.com


In Stendahl's _Red and Black_, the aristocrat girlfriend (not his true love) retrieves the main character's head from the guillotine and kisses it tenderly.
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu


Not funny, but the first thing that came to mind: an episode in Stephen King's _Different Seasons_, which completely freaked me out when I read it.

From: [identity profile] yeloson.livejournal.com


Actually, through the watching of much anime, me and my friends have a term for the cradling of decapitated heads: The Necro-Cuddle.

From: [identity profile] j-d-finch.livejournal.com


It was once claimed that the late Del Close, improv master and Second City mainstay, had stipulated in his will that his skull be preserved to star as Yorick in the future. (Insert your own there's no business like show business joke here.)

Not quite so, for better or worse. Here's Wikipedia's statement on the matter: "Before passing away, Close requested that his skull be given to the Goodman Theatre for use in Hamlet productions, on the condition that he should receive credit in the program as Yorick. However, in 2006 it was revealed that an alternate skull was given to the Goodman instead."

In skullduggery closer to home, when I won a bunch of SFF pulps on eBay once they were sent to me in a reused box that had originally transported body parts, including a skull. That the mags had come from the Forrest Ackerman (Famous Monsters Of Filmland) estate made the whole thing even creepier/funnier. (The eBay seller worked at the Museum Of Natural History, IIRC, and obviously wasn't above absconding with some packing materials.)

Although my literary pursuits don't seem to include detached or exploding heads, offhand a few movie moments come to mind:

The Crawling Eye (aka The Trollenberg Terror) (1958)-- "Eye" rips off head of Sherpa type with tentacles.

Clash Of The Titans (1981)-- Perseus (Harry Hamlin) claims the head of Medusa. (This was the film also responsible for the now comedic catchphrase "Release the Kraken!")

Scanners (1981)-- Perhaps most well-known modern cinematic exploding head.

The Fury (1978)-- Amy Irving makes John Cassavetes go all to pieces. (With her mind!)

Oh, and my icon is an episode from Chris Ware's Quimby The Mouse.

From: [identity profile] coffeeem.livejournal.com


Good severed head values in The Mabinogian, as told in, I think, Evangeline Walton's The Island of the Mighty.

From: [identity profile] coffeeem.livejournal.com


Ooops, no, it's The Children of Llyr. Too lazy to check the bookshelf in the other room.

From: [identity profile] tacithydra.livejournal.com


I also like the disease in Planet Ladder which causes people's limbs or heads to suddenly fall off, while they are going about their daily lives. It brings up the issue of emotional response:

Rrrg, you just totally squicked me with this sentence. Gah! I can't shake it off. Dammit, that's one of my buttons.

=P

From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


Sorry about that! But I'm curious: is the button the concept of amputation in general, or the more specific one of limbs spontaneously falling off?

PS. Don't read Planet Ladder. Or the F. Paul Wilson short story "Soft."

From: [identity profile] tacithydra.livejournal.com


No prob - I read at my own risk!

It's the spontaneously falling off bit. The two horror movies that mess with my head are The Ring and The Mothman Prophecies, not because of the general integrity of their storylines, but because of certain visual/reality effects - there's a bit in The Mothman Prophecies where someone's face just looks... wrong. Very wrong. And The Ring has those weird things, like VCR tape counters going funny.

Stuff going wrong at a basic level of reality really gets to me somehow - like limbs suddenly disattaching. It makes me feel a little sick.

I'm totally down with horror movies with folks gettting gutted and blood everywhere, or even folks in manga (my main experience of this being X) hauling heads around with them for chapters on end.

From: [identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com


Still think Gawain and the Green Knight caps them all for sheer drama, in spite of numerous sticking-head-back-on topoi I've read since (none of which I can now put my finger on.)

To get really obscure, Stanley Holloway did an album of comic songs and recitations ('took stick wiv the 'orse's 'ead 'andle and poaked it in Wallace's ear') one of which was about Anne Boleyn (in Holloway's (pseudo)-north English accent) 'wiv 'er 'ead tooked underneath 'er arm/ She waaaalks the Bloody Tawr' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22With_Her_Head_Tucked_Underneath_Her_Arm%22):
One night she caught King Henry, he was in the Canteen Bar,
Said Henry 'Are you Jane Seymour, Ann Boleyn or Cath'rine Parr?
For how the sweet san fairy ann do I know who you are
With your head tucked underneath your arm!'
which I've always rather liked.

From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com


Baum's Oz books are full of odd head-losing and decapitation incidents, most non-fatal. Probably my favorite of the lot is/are Langwidere's, followed closely by Jack Pumpkinhead.

From: [identity profile] telophase.livejournal.com


All my severed-head-related stories are nonfiction, sorry! :)

At the museum I worked at in South Dakota, we had a number of human remains collected throughout the years from rampant graverobbing scientificish expeditions, including a skull from Peru that still had hair on it. And a wee little shrunken head, carefully stored in a plastic fishbowl that was filled with multicolored packing peanuts and closed off with one of those old shower-cap thingys that people used to use to close jars and such in the refrigerator. You could just see its wee little nose peeking out through the packing peanuts.

That actually bothered me more than did the skull with hair, because you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that that man had died violently.
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From: [identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com


The head in 1001 Nights of the physician who gave the Caliph the golf club which healed him when he sweated. Or was it a polo club? And then book with the poisoned pages stuck together, so he licked his finger to turn the pages and then died. But not before he'd cut off the physician's head to test whether it was true that he knew the secret of talking after getting his head cut off. I dimly recall there were some special things done to the physician's head, as per his instructions, and then the head told some great stories within stories for quite a while, as the Caliph licked his fingers and turned the pages.

P.S. I *love* the Mahabharata! How about those giant flying cities?! Which version are you reading?



From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com


Ramesh Menon's, this go-round. You obviously need to join the community I set up, [livejournal.com profile] reading_maha, for all your MB-related needs.

From: [identity profile] matt-ruff.livejournal.com


David Warner's decapitation in the original Omen was always a fave.
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer


The number of missing/torn-off limbs in Elfen Lied is impressive, as is the number of telekinetic decapitations. Eventually one character with four missing limbs, who moves her prostetic replacements with psy, meets someone with a prostetic body, moved the same.

---L.

From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com


missing heads! at one point i was keeping a (very casual) list of lost limbs/lost eyes (http://community.livejournal.com/thegentletouch/39157.html); possibly because i keep a lookout for those attributes in fiction, i have developed a mild phobia of being amputated in real life. decapitations have never intrigued me very much though they are quite similar. there are some in the demon ororon?

From: [identity profile] hossgal.livejournal.com


Sandman had at least two severed heads of importance - one being a Dream relation, and the other being George (okay, I'm not entirely sure if George counts exactly).

In the third Star Wars prequel (Phantom Menance, I think?) there are also two severed heads - one played for comedy and one not, in what I thought was a fairly tasteless and...insensitive? clueless? manner. (This is movies, does that count?)

- hossgal
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