I realized while chatting with
sartorias the other day that I've disliked an unusually high percentage of the YA sf and fantasy that's come out in the last couple years. There have certainly been some novels I've adored, but compared to, say, what was coming out five years ago, it's been a lower percentage. The authors I already liked, I still like; but I've been liking the debut novels less, overall.
I suspect that part of the problem is that certain subgenres I'm not big on have become very popular. I'm a little burned out on "modern teenager meets faeries." I've never much liked "my vampire/werewolf/angel/zombie boyfriend." I have yet to really enjoy a dystopia of the Primary colors have been banned and the government controls your sexual orientation variety, and while I like post-apocalyptic novels that focus on the changed landscape of the far future, or in which people are actively trying to rebuild civilization, I am a hard sell on post-apocalyptic stories in which the focus is despair, cannibalism, and rape gangs.
1. Do you feel the same way? Or are you loving the explosion in YA paranormal romance and so forth?
2. What very recent (last three years or so) YA sf or fantasy would I like? Please rec me books which are either in different genres (space opera, high fantasy, steampunk, etc) or such absolutely stunning examples of genres I don't like that I will like them anyway. Also, PLEASE check my author tags to make sure I haven't already read and reviewed the books in question. (To head off a flood of recs, I didn't like The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland. Sorry.)
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I suspect that part of the problem is that certain subgenres I'm not big on have become very popular. I'm a little burned out on "modern teenager meets faeries." I've never much liked "my vampire/werewolf/angel/zombie boyfriend." I have yet to really enjoy a dystopia of the Primary colors have been banned and the government controls your sexual orientation variety, and while I like post-apocalyptic novels that focus on the changed landscape of the far future, or in which people are actively trying to rebuild civilization, I am a hard sell on post-apocalyptic stories in which the focus is despair, cannibalism, and rape gangs.
1. Do you feel the same way? Or are you loving the explosion in YA paranormal romance and so forth?
2. What very recent (last three years or so) YA sf or fantasy would I like? Please rec me books which are either in different genres (space opera, high fantasy, steampunk, etc) or such absolutely stunning examples of genres I don't like that I will like them anyway. Also, PLEASE check my author tags to make sure I haven't already read and reviewed the books in question. (To head off a flood of recs, I didn't like The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland. Sorry.)
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Did you read Peterfreud's Rampant and Ascendant? They are of the "modern teenager meets
fairieskiller unicorns" genre, but I found them charming largely because of the protagonist's attitude, which could be summed up as "okay, I guess I'll hunt unicorns, because someone has to do it, but can we make sure there's a retirement plan in place? In a few years we should have plenty of other hunters trained up, and I'd really like to finish school and get my MD. In the meantime, how does the science of unicorns work, anyway? Ooh, while I'm stuck here I can do experiments."From:
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I did, however, absolutely love the unicorns. Now those characters were well-developed and memorable.
How's the sequel?
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It also leaves a lot of major threads of plot and worldbuilding open. I gather Peterfreud intended to write more books in the sequence, but the sales weren't good enough for the publisher to buy them. If you wanted everything about the nature of unicorns and the future of the Order wrapped up, you're going to be very, very disappointed. But I actually thought the ending worked pretty well--it resolved some Astrid-specific issues, and if the rest of the world is still full of muddy questions, well, I'm okay with that.
My only real complaint was that Astrid's mother gets too much screentime, but then, I'd consider any screentime too much for her.
I don't know if I'd recommend it to you based on your reaction to Rampant, though, since my enjoyment of it was very much tied to my enjoyment of Astrid.
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2. I don't think I have any recs you haven't already read. :-(
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I think her writing is just not to my taste.
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Haha, that's a good description. I enjoyed Orphan's Tales #2, but it's a writing style I can only stomach in small doses, and I don't think it's automatically Deep and Brilliant as many people seem to.
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Really, what I want is an old-school Boys Own adventure like that with a female lead (and some updates on the racism/colonialism), and there don't seem to be a lot of them out there...
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Yep! It was one of my favorites as a kid.
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I also think a lot of YA sf/f tends to be aimed toward people who are genre newbies; they are accessible but not necessarily satisfying to people with our types of reading histories.
2) I really loved Finnikin of the Rock by Melina Marchetta, but I see you haven't liked her other stuff. (I also loved Jellicoe Road.) I never got to finish Ship Breaker by Bacigalupi because I ran out of time on my library checkout, but I liked what I read.
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Hmm, good point. You'd think after a point, though, those newbies would have read enough of the intro stuff to want something a little more sophisticated. But maybe they're then expected to stop reading YA and move on to adult sf.
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Of course I was also disturbed that they had a display of books that said "Tired of the romantic YA fiction? Try these! YA fiction for boys!"
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White Cat and Red Glove are great. I could definitely do with more like those. (I'm now imagining a bad writer getting the concept, and writing them as a "Bare hands have been banned and the government controls curse work" dystopia.")
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I have started many YAs at the library and gotten bored, even if I liked the backcover description a lot, but I'm not sure if that says something about the quality of the books or the fact that having so many available makes me really picky.
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What issues did you have with the worldbuilding? I thought she could have worked on it a bit more and that she didn't change anything essential from our world (since it's a future of ours that sorta makes sense)
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Recent YA Patterns, and recs
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I also like his Larklight books which are more light-hearted YA/MG steampunk, narrated by a boy who's catapulted into various adventures where he and his sister Myrtle have to Save the Empire ... in Space! Written in a humorous pulp adventure sort of style.
Disclaimer in that I think Reeve writes really interesting, vivid female characters, but IMO his narratives are still sometimes warped by the fact that the main male character HAS to be the important one and has to save the day and everybody loves him etc. etc. etc. Not throw-your-book-at-the-wall sexism, but enough of a trend that I start to roll my eyes a bit. That said, a couple of his books have female protagonists and IIRC they don't suffer so much from that.
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Eon (http://www.amazon.com/Eon-Dragoneye-Reborn-Alison-Goodman/dp/0670062278) by Allison Goodman
Chime (http://www.amazon.com/Chime-Franny-Billingsley/dp/0803735529) by Franny Billinglsey (which I particularly loved for its focus on the stories we tell ourselves, and the way it turns local legend into magic and back again).
Lips Touch: Three Times (http://www.amazon.com/Lips-Touch-Three-Laini-Taylor/dp/0545055857) by Laini Taylor (which does have a hint of supernatural significant other in that it's about three life-changing kisses, but it's relatively dark and doesn't go to the expected places).
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I am putting the other two on the List--thanks!
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I liked the ones I read, but I'm not sure enough that I need to keep them for re-reading, so I could always send the ones I own to you.
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I have The Stories of Ibis, Slum Online, and the second Rocket Girls book, should you be interested in any of them.
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James Nicoll reviewed it here.
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Also Terry Pratchett's Tiffany Aching series contains some of his best writing ever.
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The only YA I've read of late came out of your recs, so I've got nothing new for you.
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Not that you didn't already know that!
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"My Supernatural Boyfriend" does not become any more unique just because the boyfriend is a kelpie/boggart/robot/sparkly vampire. And "blah" is illegal and the government controls "blah" is not unique no matter what fills you put in.
Meanwhile, I'm not seeing a lot that strikes me as genuinely standing apart from the pack, let alone unique. Though I actually think unique is overrated. Almost nothing is truly unique.
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I do love a YA paranormal romance, and the explosion thereof, but I also always do go by recommendations. And sure, I'd like more diversity. If only selfishly. ;)
I do think you would like Kendare Blake's Anna Dressed In Blood (My Murderous Ghost Girlfriend). And speaking of YA high fantasy, and also books that are actually out unlike the other two recs, I really liked Cinda Williams Chima's series starting with The Demon King, with fierce biracial princesses and lords-of-street-gangs-trying-to-go-straight.
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The Blake and the Lu aren't out yet--but they're out this year, I think the Blake next month! So I have not perpetrated an act of cruelty. I do think the tide is turning, and am pleased to see it's not slackening off of YA but a lot of people talking seriously about getting quality out there. Like Laini Taylor's Daughter of Smoke and Bone getting the treatment I've seen for Insert Supernatural Boyfriend by Debut, but it's by a National Book Awards finalist and totally terrific. (Prague, reminiscent to me of Holly Black's Modern Faerie Tales aesthetic, but angels and demons.)
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Also, futures in which LGBTQ and non-white people exist.
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LGBTQ... only Bumped, and that minorlyilyly. Come on, people, it's a dystopia, how about a forbidden romance that is a bit more forbidden?
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I've heard great things about Daughter of Smoke and Bone from friends.
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Also Malinda Lo's Huntress, but you've probably read that already.
Oh--and
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Extraordinary is on my list! (It's better than Impossible, right? I didn't much care for that one.)
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I thought Extraordinary was both better than and very different from Impossible, for all that they've been marketed as being the same sort of thing.
For one thing, Extraordinary actually isn't a romance, for all that it features a dangerous guy.
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Let's catch up soonish?
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Also on the non-SFF front, Padma Venkatraman's Climbing the Stairs blew me away, and she has another book out now.
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I had to think about this for a while before realizing that (A) most YA I've been reading recently either isn't overly recent or (B) you've read, and were possibly one of the ones who reced it. I've apparently also been reading more MG and older kids stuff lately, too.
I have a soft spot for Anna Godberson's historical YA, though they're rather...divisive. You love them for the cheesy nostalgic melodrama or you hate them for the cheesy nostalgic melodrama. I did read Jaclyn Dolamore's Magic Under Glass, and thought it did a good job of combining gothic, romance, steampunk and fae fantasy, but also that it had a "token POC lead element" in that it was set in a fantasy version of 18th or 19th century England and everyone but the lead-a foreign dancing girl-was white. Have you read Sarah Beth Durst's Ice from a few years ago? It's a modern retelling of "East of the Sun, West of the Moon," that I thought was really good, and had a more sympathetic take on the Troll princess than most.
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Based on your reviews, it seems we have really similar tastes in YA (eerily similar thoughts WRT Delirium, Divergent, and XVI, at least), so I hope you don't mind if I link you to my YA shelf on goodreads (http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/979834-phoebe?shelf=young-adult). A Long Long Sleep by Anna Sheehan (imperfect, but heartfelt), and A Monster Calls (perfect and heartfelt) by Patrick Ness are too more that come to mind that you might enjoy.
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The determinedly sensible heroine is less than thrilled at the prospect of moving from the city to a relatively small town, but guardedly optimistic about the possibilities of relocating to a place where nobody knows about her embarrassingly overimaginative (as she now thinks) past. But things don't quite work out that way, largely due to the fact that the pub her family has allegedly inherited turns out to be infested with tiny winged eighteenth-century ladies and gentlemen whose first language is Latin, who insist on being referred to as Small Persons with Wings ("Parvi" for short--I've forgotten the rest of the Latin phrase for "Small Persons with...").
While we're more or less on the subject, Justine Larbalestier's "How to Ditch Your Fairy" is a relatively light-hearted YA take on the notion of troublesome (in a non-"My Paranormal Boyfriend" way) fairies, although the fairies in question, despite being universally believed in, are invisible to the naked eye and therefore don't exactly appear as characters in the story. Personally, I found this novel much more enjoyable than Larbalestier's "Liar," at least partly because it's much less complicatedly full of unreliable narratives and other depressing literary tropes.
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I have read How to Ditch Your Fairy. Great premise, interesting worldbuilding, but the characters didn't really grab me.