This is one of my all-time favorite books on food; I'm reviewing it because I recently re-read it. It's a survey of India's regional cooking, with recipes and photos. I have not tried the recipes as Indian cooking is really difficult if you don't have a background in it and know what dishes are supposed to taste like because you once ate them at someone's grandma's house; your results, by which I mean my results, are inevitably disappointing. So I am discussing this as nonfiction, not as a cookbook.

Jaffrey's prose is wonderful and her eye is sharp. She writes about food as one should, as inextricable from culture, people, and place. She also brings in relevant history. When she writes about places I've been to and dishes I've eaten, it's so vivid and matches so well with my own experiences that it made me feel like I'd traveled back in time. (It was written in 1985, so she's writing about the same time that I was in India.) If you want to take a virtual tour of a world that doesn't quite exist any more, if for no other reason than the passage of time, you could not do better.

All cuisines are regional, but India's are really regional, and in America at least, about 95% of them never got exported. Even having traveled in India, gotten invited to people's homes, and eaten a lot, I only heard of maybe half or a third of the dishes she mentions, and only ever tried one in twenty. But at least I got to vicariously experience them via her luscious descriptions.

It's a gorgeous book in every way. If you enjoy food or travel writing at all, I can't recommend it highly enough. It will transport you.

A Taste of India

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Though I own at least four of Jaffray's cookbooks and always read all the text around any recipe in the hopes of some amazing story, I don't have this one, and will have to see about acquiring it.

I've used a lot of her recipes from her other books and have only been disappointed if my manual dexterity wasn't up to making things look good. My samosas, from Worlds of the East Vegetarian Cooking, taste just exactly right but look like weird lumpy rocks from space unless I take about five minutes for every one and refer constantly to the directions. But they taste lovely.

I was going to suggest that she got better at writing recipes for people unfamiliar with the cuisine, but a look at the publication date of the book (1988) shows that it's newer than Worlds of the East, which was published first in 1981.

I do automatically reject any recipe that has phrases like "just slip off the skins" or "the skins should rub off easily after soaking," because they don't; and I also reject anything that is coated in a batter and fried, because I cannot do that (somebody else in my house usually fries the samosas even though I ought to be able to do that, because they are trickier than they look).

You probably have higher standards for food than I do. That would make sense.

Anyway, thanks for the review; like you, I'd enjoy the book even if the recipes don't turn out to work for me.

P.

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Yeah, and I hasten to add as an addendum to my comment that I've never been to India, so I can't compare my results to the real thing cooked in situ.
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*hits self gently in forehead* Of course, that makes perfect sense.

P.
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Worlds of the East was one of my absolute go-to cookbooks for several years, until the binding disintegrated and I kept losing pages. I've heard other people say they had the same issue, but surely it's been reprinted by now, so I should get myself another copy!
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Oh, yes, mine tried to fall apart too. In my case, the whole spine disappeared and it separated into signatures. It is held together by a strip of insulating tape, which is slightly thicker and more flexible than packing tape and has held up vaguely well.

My mother bought herself a copy not long after I got mine, and then found she never used it, so she gave hers to me just a couple of years ago, and it should take me ten years or so to do this spine in. For some recipes, however, I irrationally feel that I want to use my own copy, mostly if I managed to spill something on the pages in question.

I would be surprised if it hadn't been reprinted.

P.
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Oh, this sounds delicious. (From a reading perspective at least - I doubt I'd have any better luck with the recipes!) And I think my mom has a copy, so I should be able to get my hands on it too.
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I bet it's wonderful. I have one of her cookbooks, and everything I make from it comes out delicious. Her recipe for Shahjahani lamb is my go-to way to cook lamb, a true feast. (I just now google searched to make sure I'd got the name of the dish right--because I'm too lazy to go get the cookbook and check--and the first hit that comes up is someone saying it's the most delicious thing they've ever cooked.)

... I know your main point is that in this books she introduces you to stuff you might otherwise never have heard of or tasted, but I just had to pipe up with some general Madhur Jaffrey enthusiasm.
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It's a deal! Next time I'm in LA or you're in western MA ;-)
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I have one of Jaffrey's books and everything I've made has been delicious! I'm sure it helps that I've never been to India so have no way to compare my cooking (and especially not my use of spices)!
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Oooh, I hadn't heard of this one! It sounds excellent - I'll have to see if I can track down a copy. Even as someone who's lived in India nearly all her life, that world is fast disappearing.

If you like vegetarian food at all, I can't recommend Jaffrey's Vegetarian India and World Vegetarian enough - they're so, so good, and Vegetarian India especially is filled with the kind of wonderful home cooking most people outside the country aren't even aware of. It makes me miss having my own kitchen!

The nice - and frustrating - thing about Indian cooking is that there's so much variation just in terms of community/culture/life experiences that even people in the same family (like my grandma, mom, aunt, and me) can have wildly different ways of making the exact same dish, so yours may not taste like how you remember, but if it's a Jaffrey recipe, there's a pretty good chance it will be delicious anyway.
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Oooooer that's good to know - I love Jaffrey (she's the reason I ever experienced Indian food at all, years before it would ever be actually fashionable enough in Western Canada to reach my isolated hometown, because a med-school friend of my mother's recommended her books to my mother), and there's a whole load of vegetarian dishes I KNOW I love, from having had them at people's houses/etc that are also based in ingredients that don't cost much here AND which keep pretty well as left-overs, but I keep failing at kicking my ass at going and LOOKING into it.

And given all the weird things about my executive-function and ASD brain and so on "oh hey this name/person/prose style/etc you are already familiar with and positively disposed to is also a good resource for this!" is disproportionately helpful on that scale. >.>
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Feel free to poke re: vegetarian and/or Indian food! Vegetarian food especially gets SUCH a bad rap, and it's so undeserved.

Would it help if I threw up a post on DW with some recommendations for Indian food and also vegetarian food in general? I'm default vegetarian (eat meat sometimes when I'm out of the country) and have spent a few years in the West, so I'm aware of limitations wrt ingredients and such.
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I always end up thinking about the one episode of No Reservations where Bourdain said that the one place on the planet he would happily just EAT VEGETARIAN THE WHOLE TIME is in fact India. It was actually an interesting ep, as he then talked about how it was because of the range of things done with the food, and the fact that there wasn't this strong sense in the cooking tradition that it was "find something to replace the meat that should be at the heart of this meal", but rather just . . . food. Which happened to not contain meat.

That'd definitely be cool, if it's something that interests you to do! :D
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So the first time I heard one of Bourdain's rants about vegetarianism my reaction was, roughly, God, what a miserable uneducated lout. And then I got to Europe (France, specifically) and the United States, saw what horrors white people inflicted on poor unsuspecting vegetables, and realised the man had a point. It's a running joke with one of my Midwestern DW friends that they're not allowed to judge vegetarianism until I visit and have cooked for them, because 90% of white Western vegetarian food is just... no.

I'd be happy to! I'm getting back into the habit of posting content on DW rather than mindlessly scrolling through Tumblr and this is a fun topic, lol. Do you have any particular likes/dislikes/limitations?
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Welcome, lol. I'm going to try and get the first post out in the next couple of days. Do you have any particular likes/dislikes/limitations re: food?
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Oh I BET. XD And yeah I hear Ethiopian food traditions are also great at doing meatless-but-still-real-food? But was never enough of a follower of his to see if he ever got there. But that moment of him earnestly explaining that in India he could happily be vegetarian (when legit everywhere else you see him in RAPTURES about meat) has always stuck in my head.

So much of white/European-heritage and even quite a lot of other places Vegetarian Food is really just . . . trying to do their normal food traditions but replacing the meat with something, which doesn't really work. As opposed to the traditions where it DOES work.

I am medium-spice-tolerant for a white North American*; bananas are Not Food; I am habitually wary of things that have a custardy/soft-cheese-y texture in a way that's mostly left over from childhood; I tend not to love things like chutneys or stuff with similar texture when they are cold because of texture issues; goat cheese/goat milk sadly has an aftertaste for me that basically amounts to having the SMELL of a live goat as a strong taste in the back of my mouth; no actual allergies at this point! (Also I'm pretty much willing to try anything bar bananas and goat-cheese, the other notes are more 'I will stare at this for a long time like a cat being suspicious.'' XD)


*HILARITY: even just living in North Vancouver - which does have a LARGE number of restaurants/etc that are working in High Spice Level food traditions - has meant that now even talking to other Canadian/US culture-based people when asked "is it spicey?" I have to ask "okay what is our paradigm here". "If you were in an Indian or Mexican or Sechzuan restaurant in North Van this would be 'mild', but if you were in Edmonton it would be 'strong medium'."
Edited Date: 2018-10-09 03:42 pm (UTC)
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Ugh, vegetarian food trying to be meat just tastes like Disappointment.

That said, I've had some really delicious originally-meat-made-vegetarian dishes, but in those cases the cook knew how flavours worked, and also wasn't trying to do one-on-one substitution so the end product wound up being 'really tasty parmentier/lasagna/meatballs that happened to not have meat' rather than 'omg get it away'.
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I don't have that problem with Indian food specifically, but there are a few things that I definitely have (for me arising from the ASD brain) issues of "but I had this once, loved it, and That Is How It Is Suposed To Taste, everything else is WRONG" and it really is quite frustrating sometimes. (Waffles and pancakes are my huge ones for that. There is One Correct Way to make either. I know intellectually that other ways are probably actually pretty tasty? But they are not the right way.)
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