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Unless the writers completely screw up the finale, this will be the best single season of any non-anime TV series I have ever seen.
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vonnie_k has excellent, detailed commentary, virtually all of which I agree with.
Future!Hiro and Ando broke my heart into tiny little pieces. I have always loved the bond between them, but curiously, this is the first time they've ever given me a slashy vibe. I mean, between Future!Hiro and Ando, not Hiro and Ando. And even though Future!Hiro is more conventionally sexy, I prefer our Hiro in that manner. Still, wonder if that will spark more slash?
It was terribly sad yet unusually realistic that everyone kept going after they'd been broken: Peter with guilt, Niki and Hiro with loss. In this sort of larger than life drama, one would expect characters who'd suffered that much to give up and self-destruct, directly or indirectly, but none of them did-- they weren't in a great place, but they were all alive, and still trying. I had expected Future!Hiro to deliberately go down fighting against Matt and his men, but no. Heroic to the last, he kept on trying to save the world, save Ando. At least he finally got some hope, and Ando with him at the end.
Asvonnie_k said, I would have liked to see the women do more. Which leads me to wonder what happened to Angela Petrelli and the rest of her generation. The Mutant Registration Act was called the Linderman Act: was Linderman still around, pulling strings?
Poor Mohinder, consistently on the wrong side with good intentions. His future look did not suit him. At least he got a brief heroic moment.
Poor Peter, guilt-ridden and cynical, yet still with a spark of hopeless idealism. His future look was smoking hot. The scar and stubble suited him. I could actually believe in his thing with Niki: not much chemistry, but he's still drawn to other people's pain.
Poor Mr. Bennet, still morally compromised and desperately protecting Claire. The look on his face when Matt betrayed him, then read his mind!
Future!Matt, you suck. And yet, in a very believable way. Weak-willed, guilt sublimated into ruthlessness... and there he is, top cop of the country, with everyone respecting him because he's got a big gun.
It cracks me up that Candice's power has now fooled me about five times in a row.
It is not going to be easy for Hiro to kill another person. I wonder if he'll really do it? I think he could, between his altruistic desire to save innocents, and his personal love for Ando, but he'd never be quite the same again. Despite everything he's gone through so far, he's still got a Galahad-like purity of heart that would be gone, I think, even if he managed to preserve his joyousness.
So Peter blew up New York, not Sylar? So Peter can survive that, as was suggested in last week's episode. That implies that if he could fly high enough to explode in the upper atmosphere, he might survive both the explosion and the fall.
Hee, I am delighted to see that little Molly Walker is back from episode # 2! I had wondered if they'd forgotten about her, though she clearly had a power because Sylar tried to get at her. I'd love to see Audrey, the blonde FBI agent who was guarding her, return too.
vonnie_k has excellent, detailed commentary, virtually all of which I agree with. Future!Hiro and Ando broke my heart into tiny little pieces. I have always loved the bond between them, but curiously, this is the first time they've ever given me a slashy vibe. I mean, between Future!Hiro and Ando, not Hiro and Ando. And even though Future!Hiro is more conventionally sexy, I prefer our Hiro in that manner. Still, wonder if that will spark more slash?
It was terribly sad yet unusually realistic that everyone kept going after they'd been broken: Peter with guilt, Niki and Hiro with loss. In this sort of larger than life drama, one would expect characters who'd suffered that much to give up and self-destruct, directly or indirectly, but none of them did-- they weren't in a great place, but they were all alive, and still trying. I had expected Future!Hiro to deliberately go down fighting against Matt and his men, but no. Heroic to the last, he kept on trying to save the world, save Ando. At least he finally got some hope, and Ando with him at the end.
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vonnie_k said, I would have liked to see the women do more. Which leads me to wonder what happened to Angela Petrelli and the rest of her generation. The Mutant Registration Act was called the Linderman Act: was Linderman still around, pulling strings?Poor Mohinder, consistently on the wrong side with good intentions. His future look did not suit him. At least he got a brief heroic moment.
Poor Peter, guilt-ridden and cynical, yet still with a spark of hopeless idealism. His future look was smoking hot. The scar and stubble suited him. I could actually believe in his thing with Niki: not much chemistry, but he's still drawn to other people's pain.
Poor Mr. Bennet, still morally compromised and desperately protecting Claire. The look on his face when Matt betrayed him, then read his mind!
Future!Matt, you suck. And yet, in a very believable way. Weak-willed, guilt sublimated into ruthlessness... and there he is, top cop of the country, with everyone respecting him because he's got a big gun.
It cracks me up that Candice's power has now fooled me about five times in a row.
It is not going to be easy for Hiro to kill another person. I wonder if he'll really do it? I think he could, between his altruistic desire to save innocents, and his personal love for Ando, but he'd never be quite the same again. Despite everything he's gone through so far, he's still got a Galahad-like purity of heart that would be gone, I think, even if he managed to preserve his joyousness.
So Peter blew up New York, not Sylar? So Peter can survive that, as was suggested in last week's episode. That implies that if he could fly high enough to explode in the upper atmosphere, he might survive both the explosion and the fall.
Hee, I am delighted to see that little Molly Walker is back from episode # 2! I had wondered if they'd forgotten about her, though she clearly had a power because Sylar tried to get at her. I'd love to see Audrey, the blonde FBI agent who was guarding her, return too.
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I would say this was the best season of non-anime TV I've ever seen, except possibly S3 of Spooks. But they are tied. Maybe Heroes is edging it out a little (no! my shows! I cannot pick between you!) because of the insane narrative arc they've got going.
In conclusion: OMG HIRO AND ANDO WHY NO SLASH?!?!?!
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I am now imagining the Spooks characters in the Heroes-verse. It doesn't match as well as X. But I'd enjoy the hell out of Harry vs. Angela Petrelli.
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Maybe Matt gets to communicate with the Spooks team and they are horrified by the political climate of the times.
I wonder what's going on internationally? Nathan/Sylar mentions that he's the leader of the free world, and we know that there are people with powers worldwide... and the 9/11 parallels are too there. It'd be interesting to see if the rest of the world reacted anti-mutants because of NY blowing up and the existence of mutants everywhere, or if it's a "You guys are crazy" reaction.
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Hee, Tessa vs. Angela Petrelli! Harry vs. Mr. Bennet! The world would explode (without benefit of Sylar, Peter, or Ted.)
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This episode was so powerful that I thought that *I* was going to explode!
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I completely missed that! I wonder if that's why Linderman wanted Peter in office? Although I'm still confused as to why mutants would want other mutants imprisoned; one would think that Sylar would want them to rule the world (I may also have completely missed his speech to Claire, as I was too busy gaping at the screen and flailing at the reveal).
I think I need to rewatch this episode.
Several times.
esp. the hiro and ando bits lalala
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I wish I had it taped so I could re-watch it!
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(Huh, next time we should just bypass the chatting via comments and call and burble or something)
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This isn't in my best TV shows ever because the dialogue continues to hurt me (although it was much better this week than last), but HOLY SHIT NATHAN WAS SYLAR THE ENTIRE EPISODE AND THEY KILLED HRG AND THEY KILLED CLAIRE!
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I thought it was interesting that he wanted to quickly kill all the other mutants instead of trying to harvest their best powers first. Did that not occur to him, or is he scared that being too soft will allow someone to take him out? That is, instead of the "cure" being something that kills me, it is something that first puts them in a coma...except for those with some superpower that resists the drug. Which might happen anyway.
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But:
Unless the writers completely screw up the finale, this will be the best single season of any non-anime TV series I have ever seen.
Better than Veronica Mars S1? Better than Buffy S3? This is, as they say, big talk.
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It's interesting that some of the best television is one long attack on the Bush administration!!
I thought last night's episode was terrific, even if it "isn't really" the future (we hope!). I'm sad to see Matt become such a jerk, but there are definitely people like Matt all over the place.
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As for Mrs. Petrelli, what I gathered from last week was that the older generation wanted Nathan in office when the bomb hit so that he could triumph over hearts and minds, then expose himself as a hero so that all of them could be safely exposed. In the timeline we just saw, "Nathan" never came out and is actively fighting against other mutants, so I'm guessing that he has done away with as many of the older ones (Mama P, Claude, even possibly Lindermann -- was the act named in memory of a philanthropist "killed by mutants"?) as he could.
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It is amazing how many people finish that phrase when I shout it out on the streets. Lol.
All last night I was screaming at the TV. Yesterday's episode kicked ass!
I can see the Hiro and Ando SLASH... it certainly provides material for fan artist/writers. But it seems like they are as close as brothers. But then again, who can tell?
I wish Sylar would just die already. His "I'm Special, Your Not" complex gets on my nerves.
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Same here. It's because the dynamic between the two was shaped by loss and grief, I think. Epic angst usually amps up the shippy vibe between the characters in a potential paring.
Weak-willed, guilt sublimated into ruthlessness... and there he is, top cop of the country, with everyone respecting him because he's got a big gun.
I just love this. It's such an extreme, yet terribly plausible characterization given the circumstances and what we know of Matt's crippling feelings of inadequacy.
That implies that if he could fly high enough to explode in the upper atmosphere, he might survive both the explosion and the fall.
Heee! That will work. The question would be that for Peter to explode, I think he'd have to be overloaded with the powers that he couldn't control properly. I'm even more intrigued at that shot of determined Nathan advancing on Peter in the vision. And what the big sacrifice Mama Petrelli is asking of Nathan in the promo.